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lemmy.world

There is a chinese guy who should be up there on 2nd.

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They have elections

This is true, internal elections thats not publicized and people only know about it when new face sits on top.

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lemmy.world

While I get the sentiment, neither of those fuckers is even in the top three of present day fascist dictators.

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PugJesusreply
lemmy.world

Maduro, maybe not (though I'm always in favor of bringing negative attention to autocratic fucks, especially when their regimes are balancing on a knife's edge), but Putin, definitely, and Trump, potentially by the sheer damage he could wreak at the helm of the USA.

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lemmy.world

The jury is definitely still out on Donnie Poopypants, let's hope we never find out. But Kim and Xi definitely take one and two and three to me is a toss-up between Berdimuhamedow (Turkmenistan) and Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi Arabia).

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FundMECFSreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Putin’s gone hard facism though.

Depends if population size matters in your calculations or not I guess.

If it doesn’t, Kim is number 1

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I was going by the actual degree of repression achieved, not by the personal attitude of the asshole in chief.

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PugJesusreply
lemmy.world

I don't know what more you want from a paranoid totalitarian antidemocratic government telling easily disproven lies in an effort to enforce their view of reality over the population, rousing a cult of personality, pursuing revanchist claims, and in general embracing palingenetic ultranationalism.

What is Maduro missing? That the elites backing him are government oligarchs instead of market oligarchs? That he's painted red?

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lemmy.ca

Fascism involves tolerating and cooperating closely with private industry as a defining trait. I thought Venezuela was all state owned but I could be wrong

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Umberto Eco's 14 points marks no such point as essential to fascism, nor does Roger Griffin. Fascist economic attitudes are... complex and inconsistent. All that can be said reliably is that they are neither interested in free enterprise (preferring a managerial class utterly subordinate to the state) or in any actual form of socialism (neutering trade unions and ensuring that democratic workplaces do not come about)

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Maybe something like a hybrid (totalitarian/constitutional dictatorship) developing petrostate dictatorship?

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Kroxxreply

Isn't fascism very loosely defined? Is it because Maduro seized power but doesn't have other characteristics of fascism? Just curious it's a newer situation and I'm fussy about the details.

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Trump may be an aspiring fascist dictator but this is giving him way too much credit

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Two of them have many idiots bafflingly convinced that they are "communists".

All three have many of those same idiots and more, stupefyingly convinced that they are "peoples' champions".

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