Pentagon Data Shows High Suicide Rates Among Troops Exposed to Blasts
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I think it's interesting to note that in WW1 PTSD like symptoms were called shell-shock, and were believed to be a consequence of exposing the human body to artillery fire. Compare that to this quote from the article:
The paragraph before the one you quoted says it:
That's a 15% bump in suicide for the most blast exposed troops when compared to less blast exposed combat troops.
Obviously combat exposure vs not is going to have a large effect, but blast exposure seems to have a further effect on top the horrors of combat.
Also:
The report presented the data, but made no attempt to grapple with the implications:
It's the same reason that an increase from a 0.0001% chance of something happening to a 0.0002% chance is a 100% increased chance of the thing happening.
More relevantly, 0.0003477% is ~ 15% bigger a number than 0.0003000%. The overall numbers are still low, but the increase is significant.
Yep, NP!
Stats can be very unintuitive. You’re not alone.
I remember reading over some logic - statistics "puzzles", where the logic is sound if you follow step by step on paper, but for some reason your mind just has trouble grasping the concept which leads to confusion.
The New York Times, that's why. It's a paper which drastically lost credibility.
Paywalled, but I wonder if it has to do with tinnitus? I imagine that is just maddening. This isn't anywhere as extreme, but Leonard Nimoy got tinnitus while working on an episode of Star Trek after a squib blew up too close to him and it helped drive him to serious alcoholism which almost totally destroyed his career.
It's a gift link, so you shouldn't hit the paywall if you've got javascript enabled and aren't running a browser extension which strips off the gift token.
TL;DR; It's due to brain damage.
Thanks. Not only is it not tinnitus but, according to the searching I've been doing:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6580142/
That honestly surprises me.
I wonder if the lower suicide rate is due to the fact that the individuals with tinnitus actually seek medical attention for it and, as a side effect, get treated for additional health problems as well.
I was thinking the same thing.
Back in music school, a teacher with tinnitus made us read the suicide note from a guy with severe tinnitus. That really put us straight with regards to wearing ear protection around loud instruments.
Brain damage turns to brain dead.
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