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“Speaker of the House of Representatives Mike Johnson dismissed the plan as part of Democrats' "ongoing efforts to delegitimize the Supreme Court."

Pretty sure the current members of the supreme court are delegitimizing it all by themselves.

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Of course, but this is what they do to steal the argument and turn it around on the legitimately wronged.

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lemmy.world

"erode rule of law" says guy who wanted to overturn an election and whose party is currently advancing the first convicted felon nominee and backing "Project 2025" which proposes to absolutely dynamite "rule of law"

I'm sorry but Republiklans can't use that line anymore.

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lemmy.world

not saying you're wrong, but that is a whataboutism

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lemmy.world

No, it isn't. Whataboutism is pointing to a different wrong as a way to dismiss a currently discussed wrong. This is using someone's past actions as a reason they shouldn't be trusted in their current statement. It's a legitimate attack on the speaker's ethos.

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yetiftwreply
lemmy.world

but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn't address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

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Fedizenreply
lemmy.world

If this were a debate he's making an argument that he's denied the underlying principle of: eg arguing the "sky is blue" after saying "blue doesn't exist". I'm pointing out that this is a nonsensical statement in the context it was given.

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yetiftwreply
lemmy.world

how is a concern about upending precedent a nonsensical statement? the source of an argument does not impact its validity as a point

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lemmy.world

This is not a whataboutism, this is calling someone out, and their party out, for their hypocrisy.

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yetiftwreply
lemmy.world

but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn't address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

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And your whining about a whataboutism is itself a red herring. It's dragging the point away from what it was originally.

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it doesn't address the original concerns of the statement

Yes, it does. The statements concerns were bullshit fakery, as proven by the points given.

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-- Republicans right now

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