Adversarial images on clothing to combat AI facial recognition without covering the face
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A friend of mine's dad worked in some capacity of pigs. Which lead to my friend finding out that some people had either by really random luck in attempting something like the comic or also finding out from interacting with pigs. That in the city I lived in, there is like a "panic" signal that auto calls for lots of help that involved hitting a specific letter or number multiple times. For some reason I want to say it was maybe either zero or O, but I don't remember off hand.
So when they would be quickly inputting a plate with enough taps and not thinking, shit would cause resources to be pulled and wasted. Not great for attracting attention to the driver since it is basically pulling aggro. But could be great for moving attention from somewhere else.
400-700 for a single article of clothing with no mention of what facial recognition software this affects, how effective it is and what is the failure rate, error bounds, etc. Sounds like a scam.
I wouldn't call it a "scam" just manipulative marketing. This stuff doesn't seem like it'd work for any of the modern facial recognition options, but that's just a guess. If it did work well and they were proud of it, you can be sure that'd be part of the marketing, so it at best is mediocre if not useless.
the difference?
Not who you asked, but I think some might argue that it would be a scam if you ordered it and it didn't arrive or something like that. If it works against one facial recognition model than technically it is just bad marketing. Either way is bad, though.
Unfortunatly its a cat and mouse game. Except the cat is a easily deployable software problem and the mouse is buy new clothing hardware problem.
Led clothing anyone?
they've been around for some time now: https://www.reflectacles.com
Ghost is $170 (US, I'm assuming). Not great but not bad for a wicked cool looking pair of sunglasses. Considering Ray-Bans are around $200 (and, no offense, look like they're from Tesco), and that Ghost are privacy focused, I'd say that price seems not that bad. Still high, though.
If its radioactive then it will disrupt the image sensor. It mist also disrupt your dna but u dont need that do ya.
Light emitting diode (screens sewn on fabric) not lead lined 😁
Fuck im retarded. But maybe a automated laser targeting system.
I guess I'll just wear radium paint then.
I was with you up until the stylish bit
I for one think looking like a texture ripped from DooM is stylish.
Stylish != fashionable
Oh right. I forget that definitions change
When did it change?
IDK. 15 years ago maybe
maybe it never changed
This will work for about 10 minutes. Better off wearing a facemask, bandana, juggalo face paint, etc
I'll take the juggalo face paint even though I am not a juggalo
Wrong answer.
can't they still id you with a mask? apples face id can work with a mask. though I suppose that has depth data too
Almost certainly. The facial ID is good enough that US customs didn’t even want to see my passport. Just a photo was enough to let me back in the country. I even significantly changed my hair between departure and arrival. Shit is scary.
So I guess we're wearing broken JPEGs now huh?
I want this to be a thing
Glitch art clothing would be dope even if it didn't help with AI fuzzing.
It's only a matter of time before a cop charges someone with obstruction for trying to disrupt a camera system (during the commission of a crime, I mean).
Or they just work around it
Good for privacy! But I really doubt it would work for all recognition systems.
Some funny pitfalls that may occur - Self driving cars would prefer to hit that person if had to make a choice between him and some other human. And, there is possibility that the Street mapping cars would not blur his face for the lack of detection.
$246?! I can't afford that. For that price I'd rather avoid cameras and such. Cool technology though
AI probably was already patched 5 minutes after the article came out.
You can't really "patch" LLMs like most software; you'd have to retrain them, no?
Yeah but they don't use LLMs for this, they'll use some other kind of machine learning mixed in a big pipeline of data processing. It makes it really hard to guess how much work it would take to fix. It might require retraining, might just require an easy patch of the rest of the pipeline.
My guess is that they're just shitty jumpers and there's nothing to fix anyway.
Oh I dont know, I would just assume they could update (or retrain) to adapt pretty quickly.
I don't know either, I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything.
Those people are just dressed like regular Australians.
William Gibson's Ugly Shirt come to life
🎶"Because I'm tacky..." 🎵
Absolutely cool. I will have to revise all my internalized cyberpunk imagery though.
This would be a good article if the pictures actually showed people wearing the clothes.
Literally the header image...
What's with the floating heads?
I see a couple people, and some oddly colored blobs.
Oh! HHahhahhhHah! That's a good joke! Wooshed right over my head hahahahahahahah!
Edit: correct autocorrect
Similar tech has been around for a while, and it almost always gets beaten.
Their demo video looks horrible. They are using a trash algorithm to demo the detection failing.