People seem to like and recommend Tailscale. I have not gotten to setting it up. My setup involves reverse proxy with treafik and my services in docker. Any suggestions on how what I need to do would be welcome.
Where I struggle is the part where i need to expose my subnet within Tailscale. I don’t have any machineip:port delegated to the services anymore.
I got a domain name through CF, and have traefik generate unique url links as *service.mydomain.com that routes it to the specific service running in docker on my localmachine. It also takes care of certificates. Calling that service url only works within the local network.
In my docker compose set up, I removed all the ports as I dont access the services via ip:port. I hope this makes sense to you.
So it seems I need to configure Tailscale in such a way I can tunnel to my home network and then make the service.mydomain.com call. And that is where it got too complicated for me right now.
I also fail to understand if I need to run Tailscale native or in (the same) docker env.
You can run tailscale client on the host, not in a container. Then for the domain names, create a DNS record either in the public DNS (or I think you can do it in the internal tailscale DNS) that points a wildcard for your subdomains (*.domain.com) to the IP of the container host within the tailnet. Do "tailscale --status" on any device joined to the tailnet to see the IP addresses inside the tailnet. Then all of the devices will make their DNS request to either your upstream DNS or the internal one, they get the response back that they need to send their http request to the container host within the tailnet, it sends on the default 80 or 443 ports for http and https respectively, and then your reverse proxy handles the rest.
hi, i finally found some time to dig into this. Oddly, I think I got a functioning setup, although it did a bit differently in the end. If you may, please advise if I indeed reached completion, or I have it set suboptimal.
I installed Tailscale gui natively on my mac mini, and ios devices.
I tried following up on your advise of creating DNS records. First in Cloudflare, but since I already set a wildcard entry as type CNAME/*/mydomain.com/DNSonly/TTLauto I wasn't allowed to add type A record with a similar wildcard entry. I need this existing CNAME line for Traefik to work my SSL certificates (as far i understood). Then I tried setting it up through the DNS>custom Namespaces within Tailscale admin console instead. An entry would look like service.mydomain.com and for ipv4 the local ip of the mac mini. But I wasn't sure about the config as it wasn't working. Then i tried the Tailscale ip 100.xx.xx.xx, to no avail.
I thought I needed to advertise routes for my local network, so I did. As similar to --advertise-routes=192.168.68.0/24. And later instead the docker network 172.23.0.0/16. Still didn't do it.
As I am a NextDNS user I set the ID number in Tailscale>DNS>Nameservers as the Global nameserver and checked Override local DNS.
In the NextDNS config I defined a Rewrite function as *.mydomain.com to the Tailscale IP of the local machine 100.xx.xx.xx . And boom, I can access the servers from my idevices over the Tailscale vpn tunnel.
I then tried to tear down the setup again. It seems the advertise routes from (3) doesn't do anything, so I removed it again.
Open for any suggestions on this hacked attempt.
Update: yes found an issue. I can only access the services with tailscale enabled. I suspect the rewrite is causing an inproper pass through without the tunnel, as that the tailscale ip cannot be reached.
Update 2: I changed to rewrite to the local ip address instead, similar to 192.168.68.110. I think it works now when accessing within the local network without tunnel and externally with the tunnel.
Seems like you got it to work, I'm not sure about traefik requiring that cname for ssl, our setup does not. But yes the way we've done it does require that tailscale is always enabled. Even when on lan. If you've managed to setup both LAN and tailscale connections for one thing that's pretty cool.
Getting the configs to work with my personal devices was already a little finicky but doing that for not-so-technical family members was starting to be a bit too much work for me.
I'm hoping that Headscale will cut that down to pointing their app at the server and having them enter their username and password.
I came here to say exactly this - WireGuard is great and easy to set up, but it gets harder as you add more people, especially less technical ones, as getting them to make keys and move them around etc becomes a headache. Tailscale also minimizes the role of the central server, so if your box goes down the VPN can still function. Tailscale can also do some neat stuff with DNS that’s pretty nifty.
Check out Slack Nebula.I personally like it very much and used it to build a software-defined WAN to support my family's needs. I use a point to point WireGuard tunnel between my VPS and my home network to support self-hosted instances of Mastodon and Lemmy.
Depends on the use case. Cloudflare tunnels are great for accessing services, but not your network. I have a dockerised vscode instance behind a cloudflare tunnel attached to a personal domain that uses white listed emails as authorisation. Fantastic set up, can access my coding environment from anywhere with an internet connection as long as I can click the verification link in my emails.
To access my network itself though, wireguard is better. I just use pivpn (coupled with pihole for on the go adblock) on a rpi.
Tbf, a lot of applications and tools provide installation scripts in lieu of more elaborate manual setup. Doesn't make it safer, but if you want to install something, you have to trust the source with shell access at some point anyway.
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Wireguard (if you can open udp ports)
That's what I'm using, though I've used wg-easy, which made the setup, well, easy.
Yup, WG easy works pretty well
People seem to like and recommend Tailscale. I have not gotten to setting it up. My setup involves reverse proxy with treafik and my services in docker. Any suggestions on how what I need to do would be welcome.
This is the exact script I use to install tailscale on my VPN server
Installing Tailscale
Enable IP forwarding
Advertise subenets and exit node
Thank you for message, i appreciate the effort.
Where I struggle is the part where i need to expose my subnet within Tailscale. I don’t have any machineip:port delegated to the services anymore.
I got a domain name through CF, and have traefik generate unique url links as *service.mydomain.com that routes it to the specific service running in docker on my localmachine. It also takes care of certificates. Calling that service url only works within the local network.
In my docker compose set up, I removed all the ports as I dont access the services via ip:port. I hope this makes sense to you.
So it seems I need to configure Tailscale in such a way I can tunnel to my home network and then make the service.mydomain.com call. And that is where it got too complicated for me right now.
I also fail to understand if I need to run Tailscale native or in (the same) docker env.
You can run tailscale client on the host, not in a container. Then for the domain names, create a DNS record either in the public DNS (or I think you can do it in the internal tailscale DNS) that points a wildcard for your subdomains (*.domain.com) to the IP of the container host within the tailnet. Do "tailscale --status" on any device joined to the tailnet to see the IP addresses inside the tailnet. Then all of the devices will make their DNS request to either your upstream DNS or the internal one, they get the response back that they need to send their http request to the container host within the tailnet, it sends on the default 80 or 443 ports for http and https respectively, and then your reverse proxy handles the rest.
hi, i finally found some time to dig into this. Oddly, I think I got a functioning setup, although it did a bit differently in the end. If you may, please advise if I indeed reached completion, or I have it set suboptimal.
Open for any suggestions on this hacked attempt.
Update: yes found an issue. I can only access the services with tailscale enabled. I suspect the rewrite is causing an inproper pass through without the tunnel, as that the tailscale ip cannot be reached.
Update 2: I changed to rewrite to the local ip address instead, similar to 192.168.68.110. I think it works now when accessing within the local network without tunnel and externally with the tunnel.
Seems like you got it to work, I'm not sure about traefik requiring that cname for ssl, our setup does not. But yes the way we've done it does require that tailscale is always enabled. Even when on lan. If you've managed to setup both LAN and tailscale connections for one thing that's pretty cool.
I've been using it for maybe a year now and it's been rock solid. Highly recommended.
I've never had issues with my plain old OpenVPN setup
tailscale 100 times over
Was running Wireguard and am now in the process of changing over to Tailscale (Headscale).
It uses Wireguard for the actual connections but manages all the wireguard configs for you.
Why have you decided to switch?
Getting the configs to work with my personal devices was already a little finicky but doing that for not-so-technical family members was starting to be a bit too much work for me.
I'm hoping that Headscale will cut that down to pointing their app at the server and having them enter their username and password.
I came here to say exactly this - WireGuard is great and easy to set up, but it gets harder as you add more people, especially less technical ones, as getting them to make keys and move them around etc becomes a headache. Tailscale also minimizes the role of the central server, so if your box goes down the VPN can still function. Tailscale can also do some neat stuff with DNS that’s pretty nifty.
i have pivpn (wireguard+pihole) running on a pi zero and it is rock solid
PiVPN. single line install script. Couldn’t be easier. Now if you have a shitty ISP like yours truly that can prevent you from being able to.
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@Coldus12 I got wireguard hosted on my openwrt router. Straightforward and no fuss.
My MikroTik has built in WireGuard functionality so it was an easy pick 😁
Tailscale all the way.
Check out Slack Nebula.I personally like it very much and used it to build a software-defined WAN to support my family's needs. I use a point to point WireGuard tunnel between my VPS and my home network to support self-hosted instances of Mastodon and Lemmy.
https://github.com/kylemanna/docker-openvpn
I use this too. It is excellent
Not many people here use openmediavault it seems, but Its wireguard plugin is super nice.
I run a ipfire (www ipfire.org) firewall I can dial into by openvpn. Runs very well.
Check netmaker for wireguard vpn if you want a ui, but its straightforward to set it up manually.
While I’ve never used it personally I’ve heard good things about cloudflare tunnel.
Depends on the use case. Cloudflare tunnels are great for accessing services, but not your network. I have a dockerised vscode instance behind a cloudflare tunnel attached to a personal domain that uses white listed emails as authorisation. Fantastic set up, can access my coding environment from anywhere with an internet connection as long as I can click the verification link in my emails.
To access my network itself though, wireguard is better. I just use pivpn (coupled with pihole for on the go adblock) on a rpi.
I use this one-liner to set up an IPsec VPN server:
Security 101: Never blindly run shell scripts from a random comment on the internet.
It’s also piped to
sudoso that’s super cool tooI sure hope there isn't a
rm -rffloating around in there somewhere.. kind of like a certain past incident with major gaming client.I want to know more 😳 do you have something? A link?
In the Steam Linux client, there was this line:
rm -rf "$STEAMROOT/"*.If the variable
$STEAMROOTisn't defined (or is an empty string), it basically runsrm -rf "/"*, which means delete all subfolders of /.😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 I don't know how to express how much this shocked me
A good tip in itself, but you can also look at the source and feel good or bad about it. I didn't expect so many downvotes
https://github.com/hwdsl2/setup-ipsec-vpn
Tbf, a lot of applications and tools provide installation scripts in lieu of more elaborate manual setup. Doesn't make it safer, but if you want to install something, you have to trust the source with shell access at some point anyway.