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lemmy.world

For the literal definition of a martyr, yes. For the political concept of a martyr, definitely not.

Just ask Steve Scalise.

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lemmy.world

Hey did they finally find the "good guy with a gun"?

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PugJesusreply
lemmy.world

I believe they shot him for trying to stop a criminal. Very sad.

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lmao

Don't worry, Musk will doubtlessly jump in to protect his fellow fascist and ban the tag.

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Carroladereply
lemmy.world

This isn't helping though. We've actually been very fortunate so far that the pro-fascism candidate has been such an incoherent idiot.

Trump is a symptom, not the cause. Attacking him physically like this only makes our problems worse.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Then again, would they find a successor as easily? After all, trump has a personality cult around him. Sure, the rational people don't like him, but do they have to?

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I don't think they would have any trouble. De Santis already tried, and probably would've succeeded if Trump hadn't ran again.

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It's not so easy to destroy a dead man.

The Peronists in Argentina are still successful 50 years after Juan Peron's death in 1974.

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Yeah I know, you're not the type to advocate for violence. It was just a good comment for me to post under.

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lemmy.world

Would it have made a difference if they didn't?

Nothing inside anyway.

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lemmy.world

Or would that have been the lucky outcome after what might happen with a sympathy vote?

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PugJesusreply
lemmy.world

It would either need Trump to have impeccable timing, despite being barely able to walk down a ramp unassisted, or rely on the shooter being able to just barely clip Trump.

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PugJesusreply
lemmy.world

He would have to have impeccable timing still. Lifting his hand just as the gunshots ring out? I doubt Trump has the response time to consciously do that.

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Some reports say he was hit by glass from the teleprompter.

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Just because the head is filled with beans doesn't mean it's not a real head.

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Well, this event will definitely be exploited by Trump's team and he will be strengthened. Just like happened with Bolsonaro and the stab.

Unfortunately I think Trump will be reelected.

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A guillotine would be more fitting but it's the thought that counts 💜

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jjjalljsreply
ttrpg.network

how bad does it have to get before violence is acceptable? Before or after one is in the concentration camp?

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And if the fascist gets voted in? Then can we murder?

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This assumes that the upcoming election will be in any way fair.

There is an organized effort to undermine the elections using the lessons learned from 2020, all based on getting this orange jackass back in office so he can use the immunity granted by him and his party's SCOTUS hacks.

I look forward to you opinion when states start to refuse to accept the results of their votes when they don't go Republicans.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ask WW2 vets about how they treated white supremacist fascists. We've softened on them as a society.

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Seems like this is the kind of lesson that needs to be re-learned every few generations, and the last time was a few generations ago.

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lemmy.world

My prefered candidate isn't a fascist.

Find a way that works to eliminate fascism, then we'll talk. Until then, stop enabling them.

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lemmy.world

Wait, are you saying I'm enabling fascism by not advocating political assassination?

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Advocating against assassination of an open fascist?

Yes, you are enabling fascism.

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Fascists work to undermine the social contracts of tolerance and nonviolence and are therefore not protected by them.

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Republicans have stacked the courts and SCOTUS recently ruled that presidents can freely commit whatever atrocities they want in office.

Since that ruling Trump is organizing a plan for retaliation similar to all of the worst authoritarian regimes.

This way is fine.

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All the mods are going to have a fun time justifying removing all the calls for killing Trump after allowing all the "let's do guillotines" comments since forever.

To those wishing the shooter had better aim - imagine what that might unleash from the right? They already did Jan 6. Just think about what they'd feel justified in doing if someone killed Trump.

To others on the fence - stop to think for a moment that those wishing for his death might be well aware of the above and in calling for the death of Trump, they know exactly what the response from the right would be and that may be their point in making such comments.

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