Spyke
lemmy.world

tesla is not elon

But they pay him tens on millions as a bonus for being an idiot

Edit: yeah it’s billions. The amount of money they waste on this cocksucker is incomprehensible.

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Billions. They paid him the same amount of money (as a bonus!) as Bill Gates had in total when he was the worlds richest person in 2007.

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Calling him a "cocksucker" is frankly insulting to people who perform the act of sucking cock. Musk is way too selfish to perform the generous and loving act that is fellatio.

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after paying him tens of millions, they did it again a thousand more times because thousands of tens of millions is billions. tens of thousands of millions of dollars. It's an insane amount of money.

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They missed a trick by using paint, when a spray of salt water would have done the job at one more subtly and more permanently

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Subtle wasn’t the intent here. But I do like your thought process here.

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smbreply

while at the same time by-design cloaking it as pure bad quality could actually cause way more longterm damage than a little bit of paint.

on the other hand the paint could also be just a marketing strategy depending on what they smoked to get new ideas

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lemmy.ca

This is dumb. Sure Elon Musk is a dickhead. And sure Cybertruck is a dumb vehicle that only dickheads would want to have.

But I'd rather the dickheads be driving a Cybertruck than some other massive vehicle that runs on fossil fuels.

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bionicjoeyreply
lemmy.ca

All car companies are run by evil dickheads. Most of them just make less noise than Elon.

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sh.itjust.works

I bet a lot have worse opinions too, they literally conspired with oil companies to avoid fixing climate change and certain companies like vw actively put in measures to cheat emissions tests.

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Peppycitoreply
sh.itjust.works

If you think spacex and starlink are making the environment a better place, I think you might be in for a surprise.

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servoboboreply
feddit.nl

All private cars, regardless of the fuel source, are climate disasters.

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uisreply

Giant metal boxes with 1.2 people on average

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lemmy.ca

That's more of a problem with how carbon credits are being regulated. Sure Tesla are being assholes for doing this, but it's a corporation, I don't expect them to be good guys.

But none of that changes the fact that some meathead buying a Cybertruck instead of the equivalent fossil fuel monstrosity is reducing CO2 emissions in a direct way. Spray paint the sign a Tesla corporate HQ, don't damage a vehicle which will only have the result of someone driving a fossil fuel vehicle a little longer while the damage is being fixed.

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uisreply

If somehow murder became not illegal, it wouldn't make all the corpses not murderer's problem.

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gilareply
lemm.ee

Literally the state of California would have lower CO2 emissions today if Tesla didn't exist.

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lemmy.ca

You're assuming unscrupulous companies wouldn't find another loophole or just pay a fine for going over the limit.

Don't get me wrong, Tesla is shit for helping with the loophole, but it's a degrees of bad kind of thing. Getting fossil fuel vehicles off the road does reduce carbon emissions, but Tesla was exaggerating their numbers. They should be punished for doing this, but doubling up their numbers only works if the number isn't zero.

But this is all getting away from the fact that damaging these vehicles has the net effect of people driving fossil fuel vehicles longer. It's a net harm to everyone.

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Unscrupulous companies in this case referring to every car manufacturer, they wouldn't have a systemic incentive to foster an EV monopoly that is anti-consumer and actively stymies the growth of the local EV sector.

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No way, that is positively enormous.

Even carbon credit companies that do their best aren’t always (are often?) not great. e.g. trees may be planted, but:

  • locals’ may have been misappropriated for the purpose
  • you might go back five years later and find all the trees were cut down

It seems like there is some progress with that technology that… throws gravel onto beaches or something, to be broken down by waves. Really hope it’s not total BS.

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Tesla is synonymous with climate destruction and if you believe otherwise demonstrates that you have grossly bought into their propaganda.

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lemmy.world

Thats actually a better name for them than cybertruck. The Fuckelon

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Ironically making them more corrosion resistant, by doing so....

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lemmy.ml

Without justifying this really dumb act, because there’s no justifying it, [...]
How about we just don’t vandalize private property. That’s a good standpoint to build on.

Wow, how unbased can an article get?

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discuss.online

Elon Musk haters have vandalized dozens of Tesla Cybertrucks being held ahead of delivery at a parking lot in Florida.

Literally the first sentence of the article. The owner isn't going to take this loss. Tesla will.

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Those owners are only going to have them for about 4 hours after delivery when the truck will die for a multitude of reasons anyway!

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midwest.social

No shit the owner isn't taking a loss, the owner now has to wait even longer because some clown wanted to make a statement that Elon sucks. Want to hurt Elon, talk shit about him, he doesn't give a shit about vandalizing shit.

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discuss.online

Causing financial harm to corporations that are harming society is a valid form of protest that had been used as a tactic for over a century.

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Hildegardereply
lemmy.world

Vandalizing cybertrucks before delivery is cool. Laws are not the arbitor of coolness.

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midwest.social

It's really not, they've all been pre ordered so far. Someone has been waiting on delivery of the ones that have been vandalized.

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My heart goes to all the poor souls waiting for their Cybertrucks. They are the real heroes.

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acargitzreply
lemmy.ca

I don't know. Vandalizing luxury cars finds me morally indifferent. I'm not going to argue for vandalizing them but I simply can't get myself to care enough for the poor souls whose "cybetrucks" need a new paint job.

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midwest.social

I don't care either, but still, it's arcargitz to fuck with someones shit. If you're trying to make a statement, damaging property isn't the way.

Edit: Fixed a phrase that offended someone.

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Don't care. Also, please don't use "low class" as a slur.

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Yup, but you now have to wait longer because some asshat spray painted your truck. Again, I probably hate Elon more than you, I was going to buy a Model 3 until he showed his true colors.

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Lukereply
lemmy.ml

Anybody who buys one of those vehicles is someone who sucks also. Fuck em all.

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I'm not going to judge a human by the vehicle he drives. BUT, if I was to, it does seem the BMW drivers traded in their cars and bought Tesla's.

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lemmy.world

"There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism so fuck everyone."

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jmcsreply
discuss.tchncs.de

There's a difference between buying something because you need it, and buying something to signal you are part of a fascist cult - and let's be honest, no one buys a cybertruck because it's a good vehicle for any purpose.

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uisreply

and buying something to signal you are part of a fascist cult

There is difference between rich not knowing where to spend the money while signaling that you are rich who doesn't know where to spend the money and signaling being part of fascist cult.

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I’m not sure why people seem to think that sentence says “purchases are beyond reproach,” but it doesn’t. Two things can be unethical with one being much more obviously worse.

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The problem is having a clown as a CEO for a brand that keeps making people hate him in a very PR visible way. Other car brands don't get graffiti'd.

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

True. Although the value likely went up, so maybe not actual vandalization...

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midwest.social

They're worth a lot at the moment, but very soon the value will tank and all these founders editions are going to be worth at least 30k less.

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Tangentismreply
lemmy.ml

A substantial number are turning into paperweights within hours of delivery so their value has already tanked

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Tangentismreply
lemmy.ml

Good. Fuck that fascist and his companies. The only sad part of this story is that they used paint and not something that would etch or scratch the stainless.

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lemmy.world

The truck is not really washable. They will absolutely fuck it up cleaning that out. It can't even resist rain.

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lemmy.world

"It makes no sense to vandalize Tesla’s property because you dislike Elon"

Bahhahaahha. Bet.

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JCreazyreply
midwest.social

It also makes no sense that Elon isn't in prison but here we are.

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uisreply

He is in line. Very long line. Veeeeery looooong. Longer than longcat.

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sh.itjust.works

If that actually bothered you then Elon is lost in a huge list, it's painfully obvious you're reaching at straws to justify your emotions rather than forming emotions based on an honest appraise of reality

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Oh for sure, lock them all up for their crimes.

Are you suggesting they shouldn't be held accountable for ruining lives?

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lemmy.ca

“Yes Mr. Crowler we hear what you’re saying, but unfortunately spray paint voids your warranty.”

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uisreply
lemm.ee

Don't worry, for others they say turning it on voids warranty

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Sure, that's how many cybertrucks were vandalized, but how many were spray painted on?

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They should have aimed at the non-stainless steel portion. Pretty sure you could wipe this up easy with some acetone or gasoline as a solvent.

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That's cool and all but I feel like there are better battles to win with equal stakes.

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lemmy.world

I forgot how cancerous this site was. This place is such an echo chamber that the users are actually defending crimes

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lemmy.world

Where is the morality in damaging people's property that they worked to get with their hard earned money?

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lemmy.world

Protesting what exactly? Protesting for the sake of protesting is just meaningless. I still fail to see the morality here. What exactly is moral about vandalizing these cars?

Also this notion that protests are only effective if they're disruptive is a myth. If that was the case then the George Floyd Riots would've led somewhere or the pro Palestinian encampments would've led somewhere or all those climate protesters damaging historical monuments and art would've led somewhere or all those animal rights activists blocking streets would've led somewhere... but they haven't. All they've done is lead people to resent them.

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Protesting what exactly?

Protesting monster trucks becoming the default go-to vehicle to go run an errand or drive to work. You don't need a "child-destroyer-3000: now Electric!" taking 3 lanes of width, weighing 20 tonnes, and occupying 4 parking spots, to go to your bakery or pick up the kids from school.

What exactly is moral about vandalizing these cars?

If certain vehicles end up costing more to manufacture/protect/repaint than the revenue upon sale, the company will stop manufacturing them. Same idea as deflating SUV wheels which are parked on the street: make lives for SUV drivers inconvenient so people won't want an SUV.

Also this notion that protests are only effective if they're disruptive is a myth. If that was the case then the George Floyd Riots would've led somewhere or the pro Palestinian encampments would've led somewhere or all those climate protesters damaging historical monuments and art would've led somewhere or all those animal rights activists blocking streets would've led somewhere... but they haven't. All they've done is lead people to resent them.

"What did the resistance to Nazi occupation by the Polish people lead to? It didn't work, genocide happened anyway, and all they did is making Nazis resent them".

I'm sure you're aware that people engage in challenges they don't know for certain they can achieve, right?

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Where is the morality in a 56 bil pay package when you have done more damage to the reputation of said company while fucking over the workers of said company.

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the real crime here is this death trap being allowed on the road in the first place.

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31337reply
sh.itjust.works

"In an unjust society the only place for a just man is prison."

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sh.itjust.works

This is why the planet is fucked, you all whine that climate change is scary but then you cheer on people attacking electric cars just because Twitter man bad. You're all desperate for tesla to fail because Elon upset you, someone doing something petty that'll have zero effect on Elon but will negatively affect a regular person fills you with joy because it's a way of hitting back at the bad man. Totally childish and pathetic.

Spend that energy learning about and praising positive things, don't win by tearing your opponent down win by building yourself up.

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All of the vehicles in the article were pre-delivery. As they were still owned by Tesla, it falls on the company to repair them.

I’m not justifying vandalism, but the impact to the buyer is a delayed delivery vs a monetary and PR impact to Tesla.

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Ok... I'll take the bait, can you please share links that show how the Cybertruck is actually good the planet? I didn't actually read technical review about it. I mostly see silly (and sometimes fun) memes. I also recently read that EV in generals don't have the same impact as electrical bikes, e.g https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2024/apr/11/evs-are-booming-but-electric-bikes-are-really-cutting-emissions , but maybe I'm misinformed and this vehicle by Tesla, despite its size, it's actually helping. Can you please share a link to such review and/or studies with e.g Life cycle assessment (LCA) / ISO 14040?

PS: to clarify I don't mean articles about how it's "changing mind", I mean numerical estimations then comparison between one mean of transport, e.g non EV vs EV, or this EV vs other or this EV vs random electric bike.

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Its paint. They can still drive them. Stop being a little baby.

Also, i don't know about a single nice person that bought this low poly piece of shit.

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lemm.ee

You ... are aware Tesla isn't the only EV car company, and is also one of the more expensive ones ... right?

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sh.itjust.works

Their work sharing battery tech was monumental in starting the market and they've continued to really push things forward.

I understand you have an emotional response to a distasteful man but ignoring reality makes you seem totally unserious and frankly absurd.

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Right, I'm the one seeing things through a funnel of "emotional response" and ignoring the rest of the EV market because of nostalgia and a sense of devotion ...

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Tesla is synonymous with climate destruction and if you believe otherwise demonstrates that you have grossly bought into their propaganda.

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No matter what cars will be shit for the environment in some way, things like pubic transport, bike infrastructure and more walkable cities are things that actually help

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