Spyke
sh.itjust.works

While I think that’s dope it does feel like it gives Russia valid cause to strike them in host countries and kind of feels like a deliberate provocation to do so?

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lemmy.world

Russia doesn’t actually want NATO get involved so they wouldn’t strike the host nation.

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lemmy.ml

Russia has stated many things which are often contradictory and false.

Regardless, attacking NATO countries would be strategic insanity.

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Vilianreply
lemmy.ca

they are insane tho, but putin don't want to die, and their fuxked up defense system can't cope with the ammount of missiles that gonna rain in his head

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They're not insane: everything they've done are things they sincerely thought they could get away with, and up until Ukraine Putin has been correct in that regard.

Pretending to be crazy is an effective strategy: ironically Nixon popularized it during the cold war.

Attacking targets in NATO countries (even if "justified") is going to drastically increase the odds NATO gets directly involved in Ukraine -- something Putin absolutely doesn't want.

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lemmy.ml

It's not even politics, It's just math. NATO has superiority in economy, industrial output, operational equipment and manpower.

Plus they're too close to Russia for asymmetric warfare rules.

I would bet on it, but I'd sure as hell wish we could all get along instead.

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Um.... Is NATO weaker with the addition of Sweden and Finland? I'm not sure what your definition of "weak" means. I thought having more allies is not weak.

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If it's a NATO country the F-16s are the least of their worries and find out what a real 3 day operation looks like.

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Well the second best army is not performing anywhere near expectations. Russia should finish one fight theycan't go the distance on before picking on NATO.

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I would be shocked if Russia did, the west has been pretty limited with allowing Ukrainian strikes with western systems on Russia even to this day. Like it or not I don't think they would attempt to strike another country because they are scared of relatiation.

I would be happy to be wrong, because if they do I think the west would join the war or allow Ukraine more Freedom with their systems. Either way the net outcome is Russians still loosing the long game, like they currently are

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mlg
lemmy.world

Still waiting for the "F-16s delivered to Ukraine" headline instead of these useless stall articles showing off the mistake of not sending them 2 years ago >:(

::: spoiler spoiler Seriously they're guarding base block F-16s, but a whole fleet of F-15s for Israel is fine because money. :::

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benderfendreply
lemmy.world

It's all about training. Pilots are one matter. Repair and maintenance crews are another. It's going to take time unfortunately. Money and logistics aren't the issue here though.

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lemmy.ca

Motherfucker they're going to base the planes in Romania. What repair and maintenance crews do they need that don't already exist?

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Motherfucker... They ain't basing ALL the planes in other countries... They have to fly the planes out of ukraine if they want to use them or the west is risking being dragged into the war by being a direct participant. No one is prepared for this yet. They are preparing however...

I feel your pain bro but look into the issue first before talking like a dipshit. Realize that this stuff doesn't happen overnight please.

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