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Tech company fined by DOJ over ‘whites only’ job posting

In March 2023, a recruiter for Arthur Grand Technologies posted a job advertisement looking for ‘US Born Citizens [white] who are local within 60 miles from Dallas, TX [Don’t share with candidates]’

A tech company in Virginia has been fined thousands of dollars by the Justice Department over a job advert seeking “whites only” candidates.

In March 2023, a recruiter for Arthur Grand Technologies, an information technology services firm based in Ashburn, posted a job advertisement on the recruitment website Indeed for a business analyst for the company’s sales and insurance claims team.

The job posting said that the company was looking for “US Born Citizens [white] who are local within 60 miles from Dallas, TX [Don’t share with candidates]”, according to the DOJ.

Tech company fined by DOJ over ‘whites only’ job postinghttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virginia-tech-company-discrimination-job-posting-b2552073.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
fedia.io

Fined less than $40k. Great, problem fixed, everyone!

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Racism removal only costs 40k? Perhaps we can get a loan.

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It did say it had to pay that 31k to everyone who complained to the dept of labor. Now I take that as 31k per person, so if I am correct and that's a big if that could be a good chunk of money. All that being said, it's not enough.

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lemmy.world

Meanwhile, the company denied it had approved the posting and blamed a disgruntled employee working for its subsidiary in India.

"It wasn't our fault, it was the dark-skinned guy's fault" is an interesting way to try to excuse your white racism...

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gruereply
lemmy.world

Considering it said "[Don't share with candidates]" and allegedly the Indian employee is the one who shared it with candidates, I think I can guess what he was righteously "disgruntled" about!

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Even if the guy happily posted the ad, that is the most tone-deaf way they could have responded to this. Even just coming out and saying, "yep, we meant whites only when we said whites only" would have been less tone-deaf.

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lemmy.world

"Thousands of dollars" in fines is orders of magnitude too low.

Edit: also, what the actual fuck:

Under the arrangement, Arthur Grand will pay a civil penalty of $7,500, along with a total of $31,000 to 31 people who complained about the posting. The company — which is minority-owned and a federal contractor designated a disadvantaged business — will also be monitored to ensure compliance with anti-discrimination laws.

That company should've instantly lost those "disadvantaged business" and "Federal contractor" designations permanently!

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So the fine is less than what the company would pay in wages in three weeks for that position.

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lemmy.world

Only fined? Whoever made that requirement is going to continue causing damage. This person should be banned from any management position or position where they have power over other people.

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Company should be banned. Nobody should do business with them anymore.

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The company should have lost its business license and had its IP released to the public domain. Someone might actually care.

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we are so fucking soft on racism and bigotry.

string them up in the town square.

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lemmy.ca

Can we please:

A) stop allowing companies to settle with the "while not admitting any wrong doing"

B) stop fining companies finger slaps, not even hand slaps? Make fines depend on their annual revenue and see how fast they'll behave

C) start requiring companies to divulge the parson who is the source of said wrong doing, and the person who signed off on wrong doing, and prosecute these persons also individually from the company, criminally if need be

This way, companies will start behaving a lot faster, or, you know, at all.

Right now you know that this company will still hire a white dude even though they're not saying it again in the ad.

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lemmy.world

Sir that would mean rich people would be held accountable and we just can't have that kind of talk around here

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You can't have negative revenue, revenue is only a measure of income, before costs are pulled out.even if you only sold $1 worth of product, and spent 200billion to do so you still have a revenue of $1

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The fine is pathetically low. And that needs to be fixed.

However, the name "Arthur Grand Technologies" will always be synonymous to racism. They dug their own grave.

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However, the name “Arthur Grand Technologies” will always be synonymous to racism.

For now. This will be memory-holed in a couple weeks. A couple grand is nothing, maybe just a slightly down quarter. They should have been completely annihilated. Crimes like this shouldn't be fixed dollar amounts; it should be percentages of average annual gross earnings, and in this case, something like 300% annual gross earnings. Let them sell everything off.

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You can't post that. Racism at work is illegal.

What happens if we're racist at work?

You get fined.

So, legal, but just not for free.

-__________-

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lemm.ee

We can't even hire WHITE PEOPLE now? I TOLD YOU Whites were being hated just because of our SKIN COLOR! And I'm TOTALLY NOT RACIST!

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I feel you man. It's this WOKE guvment and this CANCEL culture. I make observations AND conclusions and now I'm RACIST? I'm just lucky I'm on disability.

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As usual they never admitted wrongdoing... And the person in charge who made the decision was not identified or dealt with....So they'll do it again if they think they can get away with it

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lemm.ee

This company simply said the quiet part out loud. Without that whites only requirement, they would have only hired whites anyways.

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Bakkodareply
sh.itjust.works

Who wants to start a lawsuit trolling company where we scrape, ingest and search for anything we can sue for discrimination and donate as much of the proceeds to charity of a competing viewpoint as we possibly can?

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That requires so much effort beyond basic trolling that I doubt you will get much traction.

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Since they did say it out loud....Let it be known that Arthur Grand Technologies has racist hiring practices.

Maybe if Arthur Grand Technologies didn't want their brand associated with racism they shouldn't have told recruiters to hire only white people.

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apparently racism is acceptable to the DOJ as long as the $38,500 premium racist tier is unlocked

I get that DOJ/DOL may be unable to fine more than they did here because of case law or statutes or whatever the fuck, but it doesn't change the fact that penalties like this are far too small to truly function as penalties

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lemmy.world

The article says the post was made by an employee in India. Seems like a cultural misunderstanding.

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That's what the company is blaming it on. I don't believe that for a second.

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Hawkereply
lemmy.world

Those are square brackets not parentheses

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Hawkereply
lemmy.world

I do know what you mean and I know there’s some weird British vs American English thing where sometimes parentheses are called brackets or something.

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And you believe a completely obvious lie? Like it doesn't even make sense.

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lemmy.world

When you want whites only, it is racist and you get sued, but when you want non-whites only, it is not racist and no one gets sued? This is a double standard.

When you get "whites only" for over 200 years and then get upset partially not-whites for maybe 20 years. Then throw a tantrum.

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kbin.social

Well what about US born only citizens? What is it about white Canadians, but US naturalized?

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lemm.ee

Visas for foreign workers are expensive and complicated.

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US naturalized means US citizen, just born in different country. What logic they can possibly use to defend that (unless they themselves are American Indians, which somehow I doubt)

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lemmy.world

Can they or are they just feigning it? Because I'm thinking the latter.

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lemmy.world

Had Indiana truly changed that much in the 20 years since I lived there?

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lemmy.ml

but when you want non-whites only, it is not racist and no one gets sued?

That is also illegal. You're only allowed to do it for actors and things like scholarships for disadvantaged groups iirc

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lemm.ee

It's not pervasive like that white dude (yes, we know he's a white guy) suggests, but you can find companies with a hiring preference because they need to balance out their workforce. If you only hire people who look like you because they're "the only talented people" or "they fit the culture", you should balance it out with different people.

Basically to have a diverse workforce you can't leave it up to chance or it won't happen.

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(yes, we know he’s a white guy)

To be fair, he might be Clarence Thomas.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Tell me you’re not a straight white guy without telling me you’re a straight white guy.

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No, no, no. Don’t lump the want for ACTUAL equal treatment regardless of the color of your skin in with anti choice, Christian right-wing.

It’s entirely possible to want one and none of the other things you listed.

If those reading this need to hear it from some who’s not white (because you care about the color of peoples skin more than anyone I knew growing up in west Texas in the 90’s) check out Coleman Hughes.

https://youtu.be/QxB3b7fxMEA?si=zZLfcXnKL8zAJd7E

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The entire country could be white male straight Christians rolling coal on the weekends and they’d still complain because their neighbors don’t match.

Irish/Italians/Catholics would lose their white privilege again.

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