Spyke
lemmy.world

If he's so upset about being compared to mass murderers he should have not murdered people en masse. It's actually very easy to not do that

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lemmy.world

I have, completely by accident and with no significant effort on my part, gone 40 years without mass murdering. It almost just happens on its own.

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Blackmistreply
feddit.uk

Man, you're lucky. I wasn't paying attention the other day, and accidentally wiped out a family of 30. It's just so easily done.

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lemmy.ca

To avoid that label, he could, like.. not mass murder the people of Gaza.

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feddit.uk

Yes, I wonder why they could have compared you to mass murderers".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4490z75v3o

In a bitter personal attack, Mr Netanyahu said Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) was one of the "great antisemites in modern times."

I've checked the ICC most wanted list. It's here: https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendants

It's almost all African warlords. Not a big Jewish demographic, if I'm honest. If the leader of Israel can describe the ICC as antisemites, the word literally has no meaning any more.

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lemm.ee

At this point, if you don't support the genocide and forceful taking of land in Gaza, you're antisemitic.

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lemmy.world

I just wanted to say that Palestinians and their Canaanite ancestors are Semites as well. So, if we take the phrase antisemitic literally, then the current Israeli government is also antisemitic.

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And I was half expecting there to be one per page with ads in-between...

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kbin.run

No, Bibi. He's not comparing Israel to mass murderers. He's comparing you to mass murderers.

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And by comparing to mass murderers I mean correctly stating that we are mass murderers

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Treczoksreply
lemmy.world

In another article, some Hamas guy was outraged because of being put on the same level as the Israeli murderers.

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Hugh_Jeggsreply
lemm.ee

A goose wouldn't have stopped at flattening Palestine tho

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Israel has also stolen parts of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and historically Egypt. Their extremist ministers, who are currently in political control of the entity, are calling for stealing more of southern Lebanon too. There’s no reason to believe Israel will stop their genocide when the last Palestinian is murdered.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

Yeah, but if the level of a goose is what you need to get to to be considered a war criminal then no one would be a war criminal.

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How you can tell it's actual journalism - it says "lambasts" instead of "slams" 😂

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lemmy.world

I've been calling this man a war criminal for almost my entire life and it's good to see the ICC figuring it out

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

More people need to watch the interviews with former IDF soldiers. They openly talk about doing things to Palestinians in West Bank that are war crimes. They also say they do these things routinely. Even the arrest policy is a war crime because they aren't turned over to the PA, they have to go in front of an Israeli court. If they go in front of a court at all, instead of being indefinitely detained.

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There's that documentary with the old timer IDF members laughing about slaughtering people and raping young girls during the Nakba.

https://streamable.com/b7yvo0

When we see these kinds of people act on their inclinations in society, whether it be they chop up their wife or kill a bunch of kids at a daycare, people react with horror. They do it as part of their time in the military and a lot of people just accept it. Same sociopaths doing the same horrible stuff though either way you cut it.

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lemmy.world

I believe it, but i hate quotes like this. Give me at least a full sentence in quotes.

"I reject with disgust the comparison of the prosecutor in the Hague between democratic Israel and the mass murderers of Hamas,"

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skhayfareply
lemmy.world

He's right, he completely smashed their records, he needs his own medals for his massive achievement in murders and massacres.

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sopuli.xyz

Protests were calling for years for Netanyahu to go to The Hague. Is it happening?

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Madison420reply
lemmy.world

No. They would never drag him there but they won't mind trying him in absentia at some point.

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lemmy.world

No. The ICC never tries anyone in absentia. His arrest warrant, if approved, will stand for all time until he either dies or is arrested. There is no statute of limitations for any ICC charges. This means he is effectively barred from visiting any party to the Rome Statute (124 countries).

It also means he could potentially be arrested in Israel and handed over to the ICC if he loses an election and the new government wants to get rid of him.

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Maybe they can get the corruption trial done at the same time they decide whether to hang this despot.

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Yeah, jackass. Think about that for a minute before you pop open your idiot mouth.

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Has anyone ever known a criminal to go along with and agree they should be punished?

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lemmy.world

how is killing hamas terrorists and their supporters murder??

if anything,ending hamas would be a good thing for everyone,even the arabs.

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lemmy.world

Quick question. Are the 4 and 5 year Olds members of hamas? Even if you believe the adults should be wiped off the face of the earth do you believe the small children should be massacred by the tens of thousands like they are now. How about the unarmed people trying to get food from air drops getting gunned down. In my eyes Isreal is targeting unrelated civilians at an alarming rate. Hamas killed about 1000 people where as Isreal has killed near 40000 with most being unrelated civilians.

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The term "Palestinian child" is now an anti-semitic slur. Can you please use the term "small Hamas" in future?

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Just a clarification: There is no evidence that supports Hamas killing even a 1000 people on 10/7, as Israel refuses an investigation into the matter. At least several hundreds killed by Hamas were IDF terrorists, which are valid war targets. It is also known that Israel was shooting at civilians from helicopters, such as the IDF assault on the music festival. Without a proper investigation, it’s unknown what share of the deaths were actually caused by Hamas vs IDF.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

don't care and not bothered by woke rhetorics about Palestinian children,if hamas had no qualms killing israeli children,why should i be bothered by hypocrites using the death of children as a numbers game.

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Facebonesreply
reddthat.com

If 3,000 dead sends you into a blind murderous rage, but 35,000+ dead is a normal, acceptable "numbers game," you're not concerned about life, you're just a genocidal racist.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

nah,i just don't support genocide and iif any woke ass numbskull decides to use numbers as a justification,i don't give a shit what they think.

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nosuchuserreply
reddthat.com

Sounds like you don’t understand numbers.

Ignorance is no excuse for justifying war crimes.

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lol,ignoring there are innocents on both side but then justifying the lesser one isn't as tragic as the one with more numbers is shit logic.

bunch of woke ass idiots.

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Facebonesreply
reddthat.com

I just don't support genocide

Spends multiple comments over two days screaming about how they justify genocide

Also, enough with the #OneJoke woke accusations. We get it, you think anyone not wearing a white hood is woke, you can shut the fuck up about it already.

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kbin.social

Don't you have some kid's birthday party to be at, you fucking clown?

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i do in fact have a birthday party to be at but not before i am done with your mom.

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lemmy.world

Shit if we are going by the he hit me first route then Isreal is still the bad guy. Oct 7 wasn't the beginning of history for them and Isreal has been torturing and killing Palestinians for decades. It's almost like hamas was formed because of the abuse being suffered for decades because isreal believes palistinians arent people, but that's too much reading for a mouthbreather who uses the term woke rhetorics.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

mind numbing attempts at insults...that was a difficult read written by some neanderthal.

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lemmy.world

Should probably take a class or two if you are having trouble reading. The tutor won't judge you that much for being an adult and not knowing how to read.

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kbin.social

Because the Palestinian children had nothing to do with the killing of Israeli children? What you're describing and explicitly trying to justify here is collective punishment of all of the two million Palestinians in Gaza (more than half of whom are children) for the crimes of (by Israel's estimates) about 3,000 Hamas terrorists on 7 October.

What you're articulating constitutes a war crime under the Geneva Convention and that's exactly why the ICC is getting involved.

Let me try putting this another way. The population of the US state of Nebraska is about two million. Every year, there are about 6,000 violent crimes committed by Nebraskans. Should every Nebraskan be collectively punished for the crimes of those few thousand Nebraskans?

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

blah blah blah, conflating not caring about hamas and their supporters dying and then smudging in palestinians in to obfuscate the issue.

fuck hamas,if you want to justify their actions bacause many moons back israel or arabs did this,you should go swim in that cesspool alone.

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midwest.social

Seriously, due to Poe's Law, I have to ask, are you trying to cement the perception Israel and it supporters as complete monsters?

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

i am sure hamas did,not sure about those woke idiots chanting supporting palestine only to mean hamas.

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lemmy.world

Yikes. "If the mass shooter doesn't care about killing innocent people, why should I feel bad about shooting up the neighborhood he lives in?"

You need professional help. Not a joke or exaggeration.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

man lemmy has really attracted thos woke rubbish from reddit.

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Let's use the definition DeSantis used during a court hearing.

"the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

The injustice here being that the Israeli government thinks one Israeli life is worth 40 Palestinians and growing. That they are allowed to punish an entire country for the actions of the few. Using internationally banned tactics and lies. And committing genocide by starvation by blocking the import of food, water and medicine, and bombing all the buildings.

Know the funny thing? You calling things woke means you believe there are systemic injustices in society and try to address them by calling them out.

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GoodEye8reply
lemm.ee

So if the numbers don't matter then Hamas killing just one child justifies Isreal killing tens of thousands of children?

If the numbers were reversed and it was Hamas killing tens of thousands, would you be just as indifferent to the numbers?

I think you don't care about the numbers because it fits your world view of Israel is right and Hamas is wrong. Excessive killing by Isreal doesn't matter because they're right, but if it was excessive killing by Hamas (and 3000 is excessive under normal circumstance) matters because Hamas is wrong.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

the framing that a country vs an organisation is where you people got it wrong.

hamas is an organzation representing gaza and idf were the one responsible for the atrocities. the whole of Israel isn't behind the bombing of gaza,there are those who oppose it.

woke idiots have been framing the entire situation as if a country and her people where behind this,where this wasn't the case.

why should i care what the woke idiots think??

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GoodEye8reply
lemm.ee

You can't be that stupid. Nobody is going to write "Israeli government" every single time. Isreali government represents Israel so people write Isreal. furthermore, IDF is an extension of the government which makes it an extension of Israel. Putting the responsibility on the IDF is like saying Russia didn't invade Ukraine, Russian military did. Absolute nonsense.

You refuse to understand commonly used meanings and instead create your own meanings, and then call everyone else idiots. You're unfit to have this discussion.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

the stupid ones are those that conflate the 2 like that you are doing.

so maybe if you had some intelligence,you'd understand why sometime,we need to be clear and concise on some things.

god damn woke ass clowns,i cannot.....

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When people say Israel they mean the government. It may also contain the Israelis supporting the actions of the government, because there the distinction is unnecessary. It never contains Israelis critical of the government because it's obvious that unless the discussion is contains points about them they don't matter in the discussion.

Everyone is already making the distinction, just not the exact way you want it. This is why you're unfit to have this discussion, because either you're arguing over pointless semantics or you're too stupid to understand what the fuck the rest of us are talking about.

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lemmy.world

Because "killing supporters" is just a fancy way of saying "murdering civilians". Besides it just lays the groundwork for Hamas 2.0 what's not a good thing.

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

should I care??

hamas has been using shit logic to kill innocents,i have no sympathies for them or their supporters.

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lemmy.world

Any chance at peace starts with caring at least a little, so that means you want eternal war and/or genocide, but we already knew that and the ICC confirmed this.

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lemmy.world

They're still human. Dehumanization is always a clear sign of a morally corrupt regime. Have you considered both sides in this conflict might be terrorists?

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frostmorereply
lemmy.world

so far,the ones saying women and children are fair game is hamas...soooooo

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And Israel does mass starvation of women and children out of the goodness of their hearts as a beacon of benevolence of course.

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