Jimmy Carter: Grandson says former president is ‘coming to the end’
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I will be very sad when he goes. Regardless of his success or lack thereof during his presidency, I don't know that a better person in general has been president. The man devoted his post-presidency to building houses for the poor (with his own two hands) and eradicating guinea worm... and never showed up to say something on the endless news cycle unless he had a specific point to make.
Still the only nuclear physicist peanut farmer to win the Nobel Prize for international peace and human rights. Incredible man.
Wait he was a nuclear physicist? TIL
Yup. He earned his degree while working as a nuclear submarine technician for the Navy.
He was also sent by Admiral Rickover to help Canada recover from the Chalk River nuclear accident in 1952.
Nuclear engineer. He had a degree from the Naval academy and was a nuclear technician in the Navy.
The most Presidential of all our former Presidents. I will shed tears at his passing.
He was the only modern president who sincerely asked himself 'What would Jesus do?'
And then told himself, "those are rookie numbers."
I remember when Carter was president. I always respected him. In the early 2000s i remember getting so much shit for defending him. I'm proud to be an American when I think of him and his legacy. He is a good man and I hope that he will be remembered in a positive way. He was truly wronged by the Republicans and the Iran Contra shit will forever be a shadow over the good that Carter tried to create in the middle East.
I imagine if the dirty tricks Reagan pulled or like if Gore wasn't cheated or even Hillary got 4 years, the world would be a much better place than it is.
You should probably get your facts straight first, your oversimplified version of what happened is a mockery of what happened
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor
No.
Fact is Carter’s administration sold those weapons. It wasn’t a secret what Indonesia was looking to use them for.
Yeah you clearly don't understand the basics.
The basics that
A) Carter sold weapons to Indonesia
B ) It’s the Cold War
C ) To empower brutal murdering authoritarians like Suharto
Just as whenever America armed some authie in South America or anywhere else in the world, we know what it was going to be used for.
But please share your “basic”.
The fact that I provided you the information, spelled out and you continue to spout idiotic nonsense is just amazing.
First thing
Facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor#US_involvement
Let's not forget Harry Kissinger
So let's go back to the original argument here. That Carter sold a bunch of weapons and caused all the deaths.
Clearly that's not what happened.
I hope you never find yourself standing in judgment for the worst thing you ever did.
Sure?
Was that meant to be like a bad thing?
The worst I’ve ever done is so minor compared to this.
300,000 people in East Timor certainly didn't deserve Carter supplying Indonesia with the tools to carry out genocide.
We get it. It's been addressed. You don't have to reply to everyone about it.
It's very easy to forget why Carter was largely considered a middling President in his time.
Between his fumbling of the Iran Hostage Crisis, his public sector strike breaking, and his Volcker Shock Economics, he set the stage for Reaganism and the end of Progressive Era politics.
But then he did Habitat for Humanity which was nice. And he talked a good game on climate change. And he called Israel Apartheid as he saw it decades before any other mainstream politician.
to be fair, the republicans conspired with the iranians in secret to hold the hostages until after the election in exchange for money which the us used to buy arms for terrorists in central america.
The Ayatollah buying scud missiles from Donald
TrumpRumsfeld and Oliver North was crazy, when you consider how much the GOP say they hate Iran and love Reagan.But Tip O'Neal and Ted Kennedy and a young Senator from Delaware whose name I can't recall brushed it all under the table. The sentence for these henous crimes landed on North's shoulders and totaled
But even that was too much.
The Aristocrats!
That's gotta be a bit of a smudge on the ACLU
They've got a very checkered past. Very much a "rights are for whites" organization in a lot of cases.
Backing Klan and Nazi parades while dropping off the map in the face of the Stonewall Marches, the anti-war movements, and BLM.
They've been near useless when it comes to abortion rights, police brutality, and refugee rights, as far as I've seen.
Sorry bud, it’s hard to understand what you’re saying with Jinping’s cock all up in your mouth like that
Neither of us live in China, and they had nothing to do with the atrocities the US facilitated under Carter (which admittedly, is less than any other recent president), why are you bringing them up?
He did good things after the presidency, but acknowledging that Israel is an apartheid state fails to make up for excluding Palestine from the Camp David accords.
Because that’s where your half-baked talking points are coming from, comrade.
Is it really inconceivable that someone could organically not like genocide?
Any American who acknowledges that every president for the last century has done things we hanged Nazis for at Nuremberg must have been tricked by outside forces?
No, that part’s not inconceivable. The inconceivable part is that you claim to not like it while also defending the undisputed kings of it. Mao makes Hitler look like a fucking amateur lol
lmao what? Life expectancy nearly doubled since the communists took over, and now they're similar to OECD nations.
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/CHN/china/life-expectancy
But also the audacity of calling China "the kings of genocide", while the whole world watches in horror while we facilitate a genocide in Palestine and beat the living shit out of anyone who protests it.
Every accusation a confession.
Godspeed, Mr President.
He was President when I was born, and it will be sad to see such a genuinely decent person depart this Earth. He did so much for so many.
Probably the last truly good person to hold the presidency. Godspeed.
The Villages
florida? STD capital of america?
Yikes.
Obama, Biden
East Timor (genocide), Afghanistan (Operation Cyclone started under Carter), Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Bolivia (Operation Condor).
Don't know why your being downvoted. Ppl are acting like he was Jesus incarnate. He was probably the most honest president in recent history but when all of them are war criminals that's not saying much.
He was a truly great person. He didn't do so well at politics, but that's because he was such a good person.
I’ve never thought of it that but you’re likely right.
You've given it your all. More than most can say. And, you've done it while taking it on the chin the whole time from lesser people and politicians. You are/were a great man!
Incredibly sad. A great President and human being.
I find it sad that president from the late 70s showed more care for his constituency and broader world during the cold war than what our current president seems to be actively avoiding during a self funded genocide.
... And that the current president is BY FAR the better of the two potential options offered; and that people still say "I don't care if the absolutely terrible guy gets in as long as I show my displeasure for the incumbent by not voting. That'll stick it to everyone."
It is really shocking how much this election resembles 1980 tbh.
i find it sad that americans see this as 'weak'.
One of the consequences of the Cold War was a sense of domestic nationalism that fell apart when the USSR did. No point in working together without a singular globe spanning enemy to work against.
Ironic that Ayn Rand's anti-communist philosophical selfishness came out of Soviet Russia in the 40s, and that's what will likely bring the American Experiment to an end.
a great president and an even greater human being
Just let him go in peace. Stop following him around with a camera.
He is truly a wonderful and selfless person. I can think of way worse people much easier than I can think of truly great people. He's up there with Fred Rogers in my book. Jimmy, thank you for you service, bless you and your family. I hope there is no pain. 🫂💐
For future readers unaware, Carter earned his degree in nuclear physics before/during his duty in the navy aboard a nuclear powered submarine.
I'm surprised he didn't go when his wife did, as usually happens with older couples
God speed.
about fucking time.
Like the guy and all but jesus christ is he old as fuck.
What benefit are we getting with him dying? Like why do you sound like he deserves it?
unfortunately that's the problem i think. I did word it pretty shitty though, i just didn't care to reword it lmao.
It bothers me that the one example of a politican that everybody seems to love is jimmy carter. Incredible guy, but it's fucking depressing to think that there isn't anybody else like him at the moment. I'm sure there will be in the future, but this dude really seems to be one in a million right now.
War crimes are the bread and butter of any respectable US president.
I followed up on your assertions, as I was wholly ignorant to them prior. And while I'm not terribly surprised, as it's seemingly almost impossible to be the President and not get involved in our country's sordid history, I am sad to find out Jimmy "sold his peanut farm" Carter's legacy is tied to so many atrocities. It's worth knowing about if we want to improve the world.
A bit of friendly advice though, attacking people for their ignorance is simply a terrible way to break their illusions. Unless you were just trying to be a dick for its own sake, your tact will accomplish little more than pushing people further down the path you so eloquently deemed "fucking pathetic".
And to that extent, don't be so quick to throw stones from your glass house. There are no countries that are wholly innocent. We need to push for solidarity, not division, if we aim to change that in the future.
This community just upvoted a guy saying he wanted to physically assault me and wishes he could.
Yet calling ignorance and supporting genocide as fucking pathetic is attacking people worthy of downvotes?
Please, the downvotes and combativeness are because Americans are trained their whole life to believe a narrative and support their party. I with my foreign perspective challenged their identity and they rallied in defense of all they know.
If you don’t believe go make a top level post explaining Carter’s crimes and see how well they receive it.
Sorry pal, but I dont see the value in dropping a list of atrocities on a post about an old mans final days. Especially not to prove a point to someone who views the world as so black and white, and who picks fights only to act indignant when they find one.
I dont agree with the vitriolic comments thrown your way, but if you dont see how you asked for them, then you are as bad at self reflection as the Americans you are so quick to judge.
Oh really.
So if Trump died, you wouldn’t say anything but niceness about him?
To say I asked for threats of violence because I didn’t worship an American president is also pretty fucking pathetic.