Supreme Court will weigh banning homeless people from sleeping outside
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Can't afford a home, probably gonna be illegal to be homeless. Guess they should just kill themselves then.
Fuck the modern conservative movement. No empathy for the downtrodden.
It is illegal to kill yourself.
Born too early to enjoy fully automated luxury gay space communism, born too late to participate in affordable housing, born just in time to go to jail for conspiracy to commit suicide because living is too expensive.
Canada has entered the chat.
Guess they'll just rot in prison, then
The next step is blending them into a nutrient-rich slush that will be fed to people in workhouses
Too much pork fat to be healthy
That’s a very Soylent remark…
I don't think this is just about conservatives, it's also about the owner class and their quality of life. But def significant overlap.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/16/us-homeless-encampments-companies-profiting-sweeps
This reminds of the gross, despicable private detention and private prison industry in America.
They're connected. How many times can you get detained overnight and have your entire life belongings destroyed before you fight the police officer detaining you?
these ghouls need to see some consequences. fucking libs.
Would these people rather homeless people break into places and sleeping inside? This seems like the only plausible alternative.
Of course they would. Homeless people aren’t criminals and they can’t make being homeless a crime, per se, so they just do as much as they can to drive them towards crimes. It’ll be safer to avoid being caught if they break in and can be hidden but if they do get caught it’ll be horrendous. They’ll put them in slave camps-I’m sorry, “jails” and away we go.
It is the most heinous shit imaginable and these broken monsters get off to it.
I mean vagrancy is increasingly being criminalized directly.
Watch closely as they make providing shelter illegal as well (just like they made providing food illegal). The cruelty is the point.
Sounds like a great idea.
Of course, if it's a crime to be homeless, it's also a crime to force or coerce someone into commiting that crime.
I look forward to the officials and landlords responsible to be jailed for each crime they helped commit.
"No, not like that!"
That's right homeless, you can't sleep here. Just go home already.
I know this guy who goes to the New York state courthouse everyday to sleep. He doesn't even try to hide. He does it in an occupied court room during a trial, on tax-paid furniture.
And the dude smells like SHIT.
sorry no that would be communism. I'm glad you understand.
good, the judge deserves to smell some consequence.
As if we don't know how this Court will decide.
I will say I'm somewhat optimistic about this case. Yes the current supreme court has a heavy partisan lean, but I've seen some decisions from the court which my pessimistic side didn't expect to go the way they did.
This is why there needs to be a national effort around this, rather than this patchwork approach which often just (expensively&wastefully) moves the problem around without solving it.
"Let them sleep inside". paraphrasing Marie Antoinette. smh.
This seems like a no-brainer to me... though it probably isn't. Obviously you have a constitutional right to sleep, wherever you can make space for yourself. If these cities and downs don't want people sleeping outside, they need to provide indoor space for people who haven't actually committed crimes. We treat our criminals better than we treat our homeless.
fuck their laws, I think, is the ruling here. just fuck them completely. we do not have a society. your conscience is the only guide.
This is probably the most prescient episode of Star Trek ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_Tense_(Star_Trek%3A_Deep_Space_Nine)
Basically Sisko and friends go back in time to America in 2024, where it's illegal to be homeless and they get put in an open air prison.
Something something, sanctuary districts, something something, Bell Riots. Almost on schedule. WW3 next, then first contact.
Unfortunately, due to a budget restriction, first contact has been canceled. Please accept our apology in the form of nuclear winter.
Belk Riots - September 2024
Bell.
But yes this seems exactly like the precursor to the Bell Riots...
Had to look it up, Jesus that's a bit too on the nose.
Alright, I need to finally watch Star Trek through and through.
Enjoy, friend.
They really love pushing buttons dont they
It is sleeping outdoors. There is no mention of it only applying to long term encampments.
Given these people have nowhere to go why not set aside some public land that allows long term encampments or maybe if it’s a concern about the safety of these encampments, the government could acquire an empty office building and retrofit it with modest accommodations for these peoples.
Or you could just admit it’s not about helping these people it’s about making them go away.
Those are both reasonable solutions and I'm not arguing against them. I just pointed out that this fight isn't about banning homeless people from sleeping outside. It's more nuanced than that.
Homelessness is a lifestyle choice
The amount of people who down votes without watching the video is non-zero. Also, it's incredible the amount of people who don't realize or understand this comedy bit or that it's a criticism of something an actual home secretary really said.
I'm not against posting videos but the person should explain what it is. The comment is basically click bait.
90% of posts on Lemmy are either clickbait or rage bait. Welcome to modern social media
the future is now old man
Not for nothing but I live my life trying not to watch videos I don't have to
Downvotes don't bother me, it's a silly measurement anyway because it's so opinion based and most people's opinions are wrong ;)