Dear pre-migration Keebinetters, how can we NOT ruin kbin for you?
As a former redditor I am glad to have found a new "home" and I hope I'm not intruding. Nevertheless, we are all a huge migration that is bound to change how kbin works and we're bound to piss off some pre-migration Keebinetters. The fact you guys were here before and not in reddit makes evident you don't want this to become a carbon copy of reddit. From the interface to the group dynamics, please lets us now...
What can we do NOT to ruin kbin for you?
best thing you could do prolly is to never use the word keebinetter again
Dear pre-migration Keebieweebies...
We've all missed the memo, I just found out it's officially the kawaii boys international network.
We could take a page from Utah and call ourselves Kbahns.
Sounds like a German highway
Exclusively for Kei-cars
Yeah, that word is giving me the keebeejeebees.
It makes no sense. Without context, I would have no idea that "keebinetter" is supposed to mean "user of kbin." What's wrong with established naming conventions? And who reads "kbin" as "keebin"?
A name based on kbin doesn't make sense anyway, the whole idea is that this isn't just kbin.
I hope it doesn't stick because it really sounds stupid, no offence.
Agreed!
How about kbinians or kbinistas?
This isn't just kbin, that's kinda the whole point. A name based on kbin is short-sighted, because kbin is only one small piece of this thing.
Instead of instantly doing the same shit we did on reddit 15 years ago, why don't we do things differently this time? We don't have to call kbin users anything. In any case, please god not "keebinetter."
"Dear Fediverse Citizen..."
I unironically like this.
"Hey there, fellow feds!"
Fedizens?
Just a bit of patience and understanding. The software is a prototype. It'll fall over a lot.
Not every question needs an answer today.
For being a prototype, it's still damn good.
I agree that patience will be key to making kbin into a greater place, the rest will come naturally as community(ies) begin to form and prosper.
...Remember that Man of Steel trailer?
Does it show active user count somewhere? I'd love to see how much influx there really is.
https://kbin.social/stats — At the time of this comment, there are a whopping 123,919 users on this instance alone.
There's also a second kbin instance now called fedia.io that lists an additional 18,296.
May that number continue to multiply
Thanks a lot!
I'd wager keeping our narwhals and bacons out of this is probably a good first step? I'm here to join Kbin not turn Kbin into reddit 2.0. Hope we can get some real feedback on this one from people who have been here for a minute. lol
It's been super refreshing to have some change, before I'd check comments on Reddit I could generally guess the top 3 comments and be right almost always. Take into account that sometimes things get crossposted and reposted and it starts to show you how unoriginal it all can be.
What do you mean, the same song lyrics or an endless string of "nice" after the number 69 show up is sooooooooo funny the umpteenth time.
Or a transcript of the entire Spanish Inquisition sketch.
To some extent, but I agree with @ski. I was on Reddit pre-Digg and did my fair share of baconing at midnight with France. But that said, I don't really want Reddit 2.0.
To agree with you, though, @NumbersCanBeFun, I think we can show Reddit that we don't need their platform by creating something new and unique here that fits our needs. The fediverse is a pretty cool place, and we can create a section the way we want it. Let's make it awesome on our own terms, not beholden to any ideas of "how things have always been done".
You know what, I'm open to both those ideas. Change is just as good. Maybe I got a little to hyped up on trying to make a point 🍻
This cordial exchange evidence this [isn’t yet / won’t be] Reddit 2.0??
That sort of thing was the norm on reddit once upon a time
This whole exchange is reminding me of how reddit used to be. I didn't realize how far the site had fallen.
Do you remember how proper grammar used to be a big deal and any typos in the post title would get eviscerated in the comments?
Honestly large scale things like this sort of organically self organize and evolve. I'm sure some people will be the old Reddit people, some will be new, etc etc. I started using reddit around a year after its launch and was super active. Over the years my interaction with reddit became mindlessly browsing. Kbin has been fun because I'm way more motivated to be active as it's a new, exciting community.
I think we should all just be friendly and let things go how they go. That's pretty much what's going to happen anyway. I like that people here generally seem nice and thoughtful though.
Agreed. I've found in general the fediverse is made up of people who are usually nice and thoughtful. There are dark corners to be sure, but we're trying to create a place that is welcoming and without the toxicity that exists elsewhere.
@themadcodger and the great thing is if a corner of the fediverse becomes too toxic, you can move to another instance and create a new less toxic community. This is where I love the concept of the fediverse, no walled garden
@spirinolas @Ski @NumbersCanBeFun @eatmoregreenfood
Exactly! Each instance (here, on Mastodon, etc.) has its own rules and culture. There's a place for everyone, and the bad actors get shunted onto islands by themselves.
nothing about reddit is worth saving
My thoughts on this is that things shouldn't be changed to conform with how Reddit did things.
I saw people saying that default settings need to be changed because that's what Reddit people would expect by default and it's like .... How about no?
I'm part of the migration (Saturday), but I don't want this to become Digg3.0! I want it to be better and its own thing.
Now, those settings I was talking about (basically who/what you follow is shown to others by default), I fully think those settings should be changed by default, but not because that's how reddit did it, but because it's a good idea (imho).
We've also got to keep in mind that KBin is basically a one man operation right now and not a company with 2000 people and expectations need to go through that filter first. This site is fucking amazing with that in mind and I think if you just look at it as Reddit 2.0 it's easy to forget the achievements that Ernest has made.
AFAIK /kbin is pretty new, even more so than Lemmy, I've been here for some days and the explosion of users is honestly insane, but also pretty exciting to see.
Also the users that have migrated so far have been "high quality" and really friendly, in my opinion users like you, like us, are pretty much the base of what /kbin will be.
We have to keep in mind that this site is not Reddit and probably never will be, but that's what I like the most about it.
Wait are we part of the original wave of Kbin immigrants?
Considering that we were able to make 3 letter usernames, we've gotta be in the first few thousand.
I was so stoked to get this, you have no idea. hahaha
I spent like an hour going back and forth about whether to keep the original spelling, number, and multiple underscores in my old name because that was just how my main always was and I haven't had a non-numeric handle in decades.
Suddenly realized the sheer specificity of it meant googling my user could easily find the most ancient stuff, got creeped out, dropped it immediately. Now all anyone who tries to find me is getting is Victorian era poetry and pictures of plants.
Become unsearchable.
Words to live by, I'm so fucking hyped to be a bee.
Couldn’t agree more, old chap!
Yeah, more or less. I've been on the fediverse for a little bit, but about a month ago it was mainly just the dev Ernest posting to himself. The fact that this is still in prototype phase and working as well as it does is frankly amazing. Timing wasn't great with reddit imploding now, since it's a bit trial by fire, but I'm really excited about where we're going.
/r/politics, /r/blackpeopletwitter, /r/whitepeopletwitter, /r/til, /r/tifu, /r/aita, /r/askreddit and all sorts of trans/terf/whatever activism should stay on reddit.
It might not seem necessary, but Reddit was extremely hostile to minorities when those subs were created. There are parts of Reddit that remained hostile until the very end. If it turns out that it's necessary here, then it's necessary here, but a lot of those hostile elements are hopefully going to go off to voat or whatever.
I was mostly there for hobby sobs and I never understood: what WAS black people twitter?
Essentially, Black Twitter is its own sub-section of Twitter that became prevalent around 2013 as a higher amount of non-white Americans online used Twitter. A lot of tweets involve humour relating to African-American Culture and commentary on systemic issues. The Wikipedia for Black Twitter has a decent overview of how it developed and its impact on social media. The subreddit was then made as a hub to share the funny, relatable, or insightful tweets from that section of Twitter. I hope that is a useful answer, I am a white Australian so my summary is based on what other people closer to that community have said.
This was very informative! Thank you kindly.
No. Not worth the pain for me. If this place gets infested by Nazis and alike, i'll be gone in no time.
Slightly off topic, but why are we saying 'kee'binetters? Where is the 'kee' in kbin?
I've been pronouncing it "KayBin".
Same here
That’s correct. Like sbin in Linux (the inspiration for the name according to Ernest)
Interesting, I thought it was just an abbreviation of the original Polish site, karab.in (which would also explain why 'subreddits' are called magazines, karabin = rifle). Either way, that's pretty seamless inspiration.
Oh my god. But then that doesn't explain why the magazines have articles. Unless — and this could very well be possible — this is the most clever double entendre I have ever encountered
I'm not a pre-migration keebinetter, but wanted to point out that kbin was published as a very early version of itself about a month ago by the user /u/ernest, Might not find many pre-migration keebinetters.
Also lmao love that the "keebinetter" sticked!
Haha, is "keebinetter" actually sticking?
The “Kbaes” is my pick lol
Nah