My favorite is when they put the bike lane in the middle of the street between the right and left vehicle traffic lanes. I feel so safe with murder machines on both sides of me!
In 88.9% of cases, the cyclist had been travelling in a safe/legal manner prior to the collision/near miss. Most happened at or near a junction (70.3%) and most were caused by sudden lane changes by the motorist, with sideswipe the most frequent cause (40.7%).
And this one carried out on behalf of the Department of Transport in London:
The City of Westminster Council found that drivers were to blame for 68 per cent of collisions between cyclists and motor vehicles in the borough in the past 12 months. It found that cyclists were at fault for only 20 per cent. In the remaining 12 per cent of cases, no cause could be found or both parties were to blame.
I've been hit by a car a lost several weeks to amnesia from a TBI, forgive me for being afraid of murder machines when I have nothing but a painted line to protect me from them.
Plenty of cars don't stop for stop signs and traffic lights too. At least around all the crossings near where I live. Now, it's possible that there are timing issues, but AFAICS the mentality is it's okay to keep going as long as the car in front of me is moving. Regardless of the state of the lights.
you forgot the exclamation mark from the front of your image embed. the syntax is kinda confusing, [this is a link](image_url), 
also, i'm no expert in bike lanes, but it seems to me that the original idea here was that the bikes would go onto the wide sidewalk over here, but that doesn't seem to be very well-communicated. where i live (budapest) we have some sidewalk-bike lane combos, but they're marked, and when they're not, pedestrians have a priority and sidewalks can be frustrating for cyclists.
weird, it looks like it works perfectly when i click through the fediverse link to your instance, but the exclamation mark is lost on my end. sorry, you were completely right from the beginning, kbin and lemmy just don't know how to talk to each other
It looks like a regular hyperlink, you need to tap it to see the picture. For embedded pictures you leave the alt text blank. Also no you stay on the same direction as cars. The problem is this bike crossing doesn't lead anywhere, there is no bike lane coming this direction. And you should typically ride to the right of cars but it might be ok to be on the other curb when it's a one-way street like this.
Thanks! I moved the alt-text, hope it works now!
The bike crossing leads to a bike lane going eastbound on E Broadway, it comes from a one way street with no bike-lane. It's on the wrong side since it's only for bikers turning left, bikers turning right will continue on the right shoulder of the lane.
Still dumb but the only real problem I have with it is that bikes are expected to cross 6 lanes of traffic going who knows how fast with no stop light.
Edit: added a few lines to the sketch in my earlier comment to better show what I'm meaning, maybe
The part that makes me feel least safe is the brief shared space with cars going between two bike lanes. To continue along the greenway from Victoria, you need to cross and do a ~50m stretch along Broadway, cars bearing down behind you. And the right turn off is not obvious - I missed it the first time I went. It's not at all clear where the path continues.
edit: fine, I suppose the un-controlled six-lane crossing is also pretty bad...
Cars can't actually drive down this road anymore. The only vehicle traffic allowed through this area is busses turning around and taking their breaks at the end of the line.
I guess you can technically access parts of this road through the alley way but there are definitely bollards up at the Broadway end and the other end is right turn only for busses. This area is not high vehicle traffic
The only arrow on there that looks intentful is the vertical blue arrow. Everything else is just regular stroad, and their threshold for a bicycle """way"" being unsafe is apparently when it starts perpendicularly crossing four lanes of traffic at once. And even then it only deserves a partial coat of paint ending in a 90° turn into a bicycle gutter.
That's not "designed", that'd be an insult to road design&engineering. That's a council member who took an exasperated sigh, angrily drew a straight line on a google earth printout, and said "now stop bothering me with this fucking cycling nonsense, I am already late for my kids' soccer match".
Yeah Canadians are at least polite. In Germany, they will just silently remove the bike lane and sent police ON BIKES herding cyclists from sidewalk into the traffic.
Love how professionally this was made. Not just a printout but an actual sign.
Fastened with 14 bolts, nonetheless.
And washers!!
My favorite is when they put the bike lane in the middle of the street between the right and left vehicle traffic lanes. I feel so safe with murder machines on both sides of me!
D.C. has this with four lanes on each side and near highway speeds and people with domestic immunity zipping around through traffic. It's nuts!
Made come back to reddit (ew!) to get this saved comment
Nah.
Car drivers break the law slightly more than cyclists, with a far greater toll.
This separate study came to the same conclusion:
Cyclists Break Far Fewer Road Rules Than Motorists, Finds New Video Study
And this study:
Cyclists Are More Law-Abiding Than Drivers
Also car drivers cause the vast majority of accidents between bikes and cars.
Four in every five crashes between cars and bicycles caused by driver of car
This seperate study in Melbourne came to the same conclusion:
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/drivers-at-fault-in-majority-of-cycling-accidents/
And this one carried out on behalf of the Department of Transport in London:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/dec/15/cycling-bike-accidents-study
And this study by The City of Westminster Council:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crashes-involving-bikes-mostly-drivers-fault-9s2ssx06vn9
And one from Bavaria, Germany. In 2013-2016,
So that's five separate studies in different cities and countries, using different methodologies, all coming to the same conclusion.
Cheers.
hardly surprising, there’s much less incentive to break road rules when you’re completely vulnerable to everyone around you and balanced on 2 wheels.
Damn, I wish I could save this on lemmy.
You can? There's a save button under the comment
Pretty sure you can. Im using Jerboa and can bookmark comments and posts.
Nice, unfortunately not in memmy on ios
I've been hit by a car a lost several weeks to amnesia from a TBI, forgive me for being afraid of murder machines when I have nothing but a painted line to protect me from them.
@marmo7ade @queermunist Who is "they" here? Cyclists?
Plenty of cars don't stop for stop signs and traffic lights too. At least around all the crossings near where I live. Now, it's possible that there are timing issues, but AFAICS the mentality is it's okay to keep going as long as the car in front of me is moving. Regardless of the state of the lights.
Oh dang I bike that on the regular. It sucks!
You read the sign, someone's gotta take one for the team
Godspeed brother
Is there a picture of the actual junction?
this seems to be the spot (with the same car, lol)
edit: i think i found the problem too. look at it from this angle, the bike lane just disappears. like wtf?
WHO DESIGNED THIS?
This is obviously still designed as shit but I believe this is the intent!
https://media.cleanshot.cloud/media/67165/209GFODiC4HzKYjOwOxg0kN6inGVQml1ZPjqyfCe.jpeg?Expires=1689187732&Signature=JjDMqNJpws0OXaCYFlMS8szfm8lBMsJjZRCMvvgDll1JbT1Dl0X2SI7-jfX6OuxdPSBRZhANQszAO9AgG7NPycd0-qUgyr5U4Sla6ej0SuioD9N8w1SCkWjgQy-G926WkJHLZsg5y4pxcEPwqZBhjKNI-rBm6112DZicFkqC0GZj7Qm-f76oVKccbbJzStTqktcP-IIBDAex-4WOQUh-9o~DenId5VMA812NguGc1s1Lz092dsDp5fAXI8oFSE-TuGt48TpRNEdV68XtQ9rKoOOSJSj4dPzu41DfspjMPF3ohmeHyD7QnDJPQBSJNFj9evFox2lX~sHq9KDo7kgCOA__&Key-Pair-Id=K269JMAT9ZF4GZ
there is no bike lane on that side of the road though
(also, you can embed images with the
syntaxDo you go both ways on bike lanes? In Sweden I'd often go in the car lane but never against the flow of traffic
Thats how I embedded it, does it appear weird for you? I'm on kbin if that might be the problem
you forgot the exclamation mark from the front of your image embed. the syntax is kinda confusing,
[this is a link](image_url),also, i'm no expert in bike lanes, but it seems to me that the original idea here was that the bikes would go onto the wide sidewalk over here, but that doesn't seem to be very well-communicated. where i live (budapest) we have some sidewalk-bike lane combos, but they're marked, and when they're not, pedestrians have a priority and sidewalks can be frustrating for cyclists.
There is an exclamation mark in front of the image embed :S
https://media.cleanshot.cloud/media/67165/AusvK5nCamhjX93x3MKTlmGmrheExg8Nl6RJNsCc.jpeg?Expires=1689189710&Signature=OiYmPQv1u2R7dbSX82euZDckK0N~j4LSbrBeASKaJk33RGmP83nGvUumdC9NGTDtdCaedtIZFmC3cvJjonXQ0Xh0Qlg5HVFbGQeDHA6Dp-PxsIFy2fYZcs~sL-MMRJaJm1UgU1p2MALDeUoReIEJwC9X0SHMZkX5jcrNAA0rTKrAkWaE9FzjSLEEwBIjAt6EnrGwXksiJYOGxUIvPmTZa8sJbOBxPZAPVWCNSRi~5XRZqB8zqrpx8b-kjdkBskbzi2FThmWPrknCeuThGMoPii~yPMOo9VAs-MHQeS0k-08KIIx~rXMOO8tyRqPCCATyQJL6sW5swwsGf3Vx-8GUgg__&Key-Pair-Id=K269JMAT9ZF4GZ
weird, it looks like it works perfectly when i click through the fediverse link to your instance, but the exclamation mark is lost on my end. sorry, you were completely right from the beginning, kbin and lemmy just don't know how to talk to each other
It looks like a regular hyperlink, you need to tap it to see the picture. For embedded pictures you leave the alt text blank. Also no you stay on the same direction as cars. The problem is this bike crossing doesn't lead anywhere, there is no bike lane coming this direction. And you should typically ride to the right of cars but it might be ok to be on the other curb when it's a one-way street like this.
That's not necessary. I usually leave it in so visually impaired people know what the image is about
Thanks! I moved the alt-text, hope it works now!
The bike crossing leads to a bike lane going eastbound on E Broadway, it comes from a one way street with no bike-lane. It's on the wrong side since it's only for bikers turning left, bikers turning right will continue on the right shoulder of the lane.
Still dumb but the only real problem I have with it is that bikes are expected to cross 6 lanes of traffic going who knows how fast with no stop light.
Edit: added a few lines to the sketch in my earlier comment to better show what I'm meaning, maybe
The part that makes me feel least safe is the brief shared space with cars going between two bike lanes. To continue along the greenway from Victoria, you need to cross and do a ~50m stretch along Broadway, cars bearing down behind you. And the right turn off is not obvious - I missed it the first time I went. It's not at all clear where the path continues.
edit: fine, I suppose the un-controlled six-lane crossing is also pretty bad...
Yes, because bicycles sharing the lane with cars for random stretches works so well. No one's life is in danger here! /s
Cars can't actually drive down this road anymore. The only vehicle traffic allowed through this area is busses turning around and taking their breaks at the end of the line.
I guess you can technically access parts of this road through the alley way but there are definitely bollards up at the Broadway end and the other end is right turn only for busses. This area is not high vehicle traffic
The only arrow on there that looks intentful is the vertical blue arrow. Everything else is just regular stroad, and their threshold for a bicycle """way"" being unsafe is apparently when it starts perpendicularly crossing four lanes of traffic at once. And even then it only deserves a partial coat of paint ending in a 90° turn into a bicycle gutter.
That's not "designed", that'd be an insult to road design&engineering. That's a council member who took an exasperated sigh, angrily drew a straight line on a google earth printout, and said "now stop bothering me with this fucking cycling nonsense, I am already late for my kids' soccer match".
Yeah Canadians are at least polite. In Germany, they will just silently remove the bike lane and sent police ON BIKES herding cyclists from sidewalk into the traffic.
Damn I literally just passed this street a few minutes ago, pretty jarring to see familiar places like this on the internet