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Why didn't Rugby take off in the Indian subcontinent?

There's a good crossover between the best Rugby nations and the best Cricketing nations; I'm assuming this is down to good old fashioned British colonialism?

Which leads me to wonder why Rugby never gained the same level of support in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka as it did in New Zealand, South Africa, Australia and Fiji.

Or am I totally wrong and the two things aren't remotely related?

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Might also explain why Cricket is so popular. Obviously it still requires a fair amount of physical exertion but it's definitely a bit more laid back than something like Rugby.

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lemmy.world

This is likely the best explanation, although there’s plenty of highly physical/athletic sports that are popular in hot countries. Football, arguably the most athletically demanding team sport, is popular in a bunch of places where I’d rather stay in the shade with a beer.

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lemmy.ca

I’d say football has that unique advantage that it can be played basically anywhere with anything somewhat ball shaped and bouncy. One of the most accessible sports out there. Barely any equipment required to be able to play it.

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lemmy.ml

I don't buy the heat thing.

A) India has all sorts of temperatures, B) they play kabaddi

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lemmy.world

No idea about in India, but it's probably the same reason rugby wasn't popular in England for a long time.

It was a game played by the rich. And not really watched by anyone else.

When most people worked manual labor, and there was no health insurance or safety net, even just "normal" injuries like a sore back for a couple days stopped you from working, so you didn't get paid.

Soccer was what the lower classes paid, and why flopping became a thing. Even a minor injury had effects on someone's life.

So when India was a colony, very few could play. But cricket (I think) doesn't have many injuries.

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The physical demands of the sport are bound to be a factor. It’s pure speculation, but I wonder (in addition to the colonialism) there’s a tribal/warrior element to the sport which might play into it’s popularity within Fiji/Samoa/Tonga/New Zealand etc. Rugby is an absolute battle.

Looking at world rankings for cricket and rugby too, there’s a definite race contrast. The vast majority of the top 10 rugby nations are predominantly white, whereas it’s the opposite for cricket. That’s likely explained by political geography. The British would have established the popularity of cricket in the region prior to the formation of modern India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.

Globally I would say that cricket is actually far less popular than rugby, by number of participating nations. The fact that cricket is more popular in some of the regions you’ve mentioned is because those regions within the Indian subcontinent came into being more recently than the sport was popularised, i.e. cricket was popular in one region, but that region became several independent nations over time.

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lemmy.world

But cricket isn’t? I can’t imagine a game that can sometimes take days to complete with afternoon tea breaks is something that would appeal to working class Indians.

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lemmy.world

Kabaddi is a thing in India. It's not the same but similar-ish enough.

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Are you kidding, they are killing each other over Kabaddi in the UK.

No wait, just fighting

The kabaddi player who was murdered was probably to do with gang violence

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Great question. My first guess would be the ground is mostly too dry and hard. It probably played a part, but doesnt explain South Africa .

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monero.town

Because it's a stupid game. Rugby "took off" in places with a significant settler/invader population, which India lacked (relative to the size of the Indian population). Plus, India has its own sports that are far more interesting and then there's cricket which is a superior game of skill and tact.

Rugby isn't even popular in the country that birthed the game.

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monero.town

It's the third most popular sport, after cricket which most people that I've met in the UK have no interest in.

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lemmy.world

And 2 million people in England are registered players. That’s 3.5% of the population. That’s just official registered players, not even fans. Your comment is absurd.

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monero.town

That's because they make it mandatory at certain schools in the UK, not because it's genuinely beloved by the populace. Nobody would ever call Rugby "the people's game".

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Nobody did call rugby the people's game though.

I don't give a crap about rugby either, but to suggest that it isn't popular in the UK is stretching the truth far past breaking point.

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lemmy.world

Mate, football and cricket are mandatory in those same schools, you absolute ring binder.

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I wish it wasn't popular in the UK. I hail from NZ originally and everyone assumes I love rugby as much as they do. Any time there's a big tournament on people keep trying to talk to me about bloody rugby. I hate it, HATE it. An English friend who's a fanatic dragged me along to an All Black/Scotland test match - booooring. I don't know anyone who isn't at least interested in rugby, chats about the latest big game etc etc. Bloody rugby.

Sorry to rant, but I've just put my car key fob through a washing machine cycle, so I'm not in a good mood.

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popreply

The indian brigade on reddit is wild. If their lies aren't picked up by others, anything that props up India is flooded to the top and any criticism is considered racism.

One of the benefits of overpopulation on the internet.

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