Nazis mingle openly at CPAC, spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories and finding allies
At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening a group of Nazis, who openly identified as national socialists, mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed race science and antisemitic conspiracy theories.
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CPAC is definitely a Nazi bar.
A few years back they made the stage in the shape of an odal rune. They’re not even trying very hard to hide it anymore.
Maybe they mean this CPAC
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They did the same to the bent cross. There's one on the Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette, IL. It's there because the house of worship was designed and dedicated in 1912, so yeah WWI hadn't quite kicked off at the time
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%AD_House_of_Worship_(Wilmette,_Illinois)
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Even though it is an Abrahamic Religion, the founding concept is Unity Through Diversity. They forgot that El, aka Yahweh, was a God of War back in The Bronze Age Collapse, and focused on the hippy commune part of Christ's teachings.
Can we take that rune back? I'm pretty big on family, although the patriotism bit I could probably do without
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Hell yeah, loyalty to your local tribe of weirdos(said affectionately)? I can fully get behind that. When I finally save up enough to get my shoulder tat, I'm gonna include Othala into it
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So I finally found some time to read your link and do some general googling found a bindrune created by the "Wayfarers Mark" tumbler called the Initiate's Bindrune that I like. I'll definitely look into this stuff more than I have already, and I thank you for showing me this world
Wait fuck is that real?
I'm out of the loop, what does that symbol mean? Not sure how I would look it up without a name or something.
It is the runic letter Othala. It is just a letter in the runic alphabet. Beyond being a letter though often runes had an individual meeting or association in the cultures that used them.
It, along with many other symbols were adopted by the Nazis. Now among white power groups it is has a meaning of racial purity. "Keeping the white race pure"
Oh and the picture is real I looked it up.
To be fair, that rune looks really easy to make by accident.
Maybe but if you look closely at the stage. it is Othala with wings. There are little feet that come up off the legs. An iteration that I believe is exclusively used as a white power symbol. At best it was a massive fuck up, at worst it was a dog whistle. Though ultimately it is a dog whistle, for the people who this symbol has meaning will see it as one.
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Nah, the design choices by themselves are pretty fucking weird.
Thanks for the info, I only knew of the swatiska one really , didn't know that group used several symbols. Kind of not wanting to dig too deep and be flagged is why I don't know, I guess. Much appreciated for sharing the awareness.
Yeah that is fair, it is hard to keep track of everything especially with co-opted symbols. I know I can't. Though here is an okay rule of thumb with Nazi shit.
Does it look "Viking/old Germanic"? No - probably not a Nazi, Yes - maybe a Nazi
Is the person using the symbol new age hippie looking? Yes - probably not a Nazi, No - maybe a Nazi
I know that leaves a lot of vagueness, but it is a good place to start. Then you can double check any suspects symbols.
Just remember different groups can have vastly different ideologies and look somewhat similar. For example the SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) are very anti Nazi. But just looking at a group of them you might be confused. As they tend to be mostly militant white young men wearing leather with shaved heads.
I hate that that’s not even incorrect as I’ve met multiple Norse pagan antifascists. One common line from them is asserting that Odin is the all father not the some father.
You mean the shape of a ribbon? Ribbons have been used for all kinds of symbols.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othala
I can never remember the name of the thing but after digging through some "cpac stage symbol" searches it seems to be called the othala rune or the odal rune.
Thanks for the info!
This headline is misleading. It should read CPAC is a nazi organization. Something about dining with nazis.
Are you telling me the group that used a nazi symbol as the shape of their stage is now openly affiliating themselves with nazis?
Quelle surprise!
If I was frustrated that Nazis are co-opting my political party, I'm kicking them out or leaving the party that welcomes them.
Anything less, you're part of a Nazi movement.
Weirdly enough Hitler somewhat co-opted the NAZI party. Riping out any real socialism. Not how that matters here....
Goebels was actually quite put out by Hitler not meeting his socialist dreams, but all was forgiven when he got to propagate massive antisemitism instead
Hey sometimes you have to pivot, it is always good to have backup goals. /s
I’m pretty sure Röhm was much more of a socialist.
Goebels was a sycophantic piss baby.
Joseph Goebbels | Wikipedia
Yeah keep reading that same article.
It’s goes on to say how Goebbels abandoned his socialist undertones when Hitler convinced him that it was a Jewish plot.
Yes, which was my original point?
Just because it needs to be pointed out every time. If they were frustrated by fascists/Nazis co-opting the party. They're 100 years too late.
The father and grandfather of 2 American presidents was implicated. As well as the head of JP Morgan at the time. No one was punished, or called out even. And the history of the incident has largely been completely scrubbed out of existence.
It's ok, Prescott wasn't plotting to overthrow the US with those fringe Nazis, he was too busy working with the real Nazis!
i mean if you look at history, there wete nazi sympathizers and enemies of the nazis.
A lot of things in this world are grey. this is not one of them.
No that can't be.
Conservatives are always telling us how Nazis were actually left-wing... it's in the name, socialists?!
How quickly they forget, once the racist and antisemitic nonsense circulates.
And if anyone is wondering:
republiQans: this is you
How do you spread Nazi rhetoric at CPAC? Sell merch? Because one would think market saturation would already be at 100% for that sort of ideology at an event like that.
come on now, you can't have enough nazi flags. they find room for it on their jumbo trucks
I heard Paul Gosar shaves his butthole once a year in preparation for this mixer.
Sounds itchy
What? You don’t condition your butt hair?
The chafe of chafes
Chode chafer.
It’s a gay mixer for young virile Nazi men and politicians
In other news:
Skiers mingle openly at ski resort.
Golfers mingle openly at country club.
Trekkies mingle openly at ComicCon
So there's definitely a Zionist wing of the party. What's gonna happen when they come into contact with the Nazi wing of the party?
A lot of the support of Israel is not because they like Jews but rather because many evangelicals believe supporting them will hasten the apocalypse.
Also, shipping the Jews off to Israel means they're away from here. Zionism could be restated as "Jewish removal."
Exactly. They don’t like when some of us say that Jews belong in our communities alongside us non-Jews. When we encourage people to celebrate their presence as an important part of our community and culture
Goddamn we are a bonkers species. Really gives credence to the idea of memetic evolution, at least to me
This is the increasingly stupid part. The fuck are they gonna do when Christ gets back? He's a straight up communist, they have no use for him. Hmm... I wonder.
They imagine him as supply side Jesus, and they don't really care about accuracy. Evangelical leaders say they are rejecting the teachings of Jesus from the source material, calling it, "weak," and, "liberal."
It seems like a lot of Nazis tend to make common cause with Zionists. Remember that the first plan the Nazis had was to deport all the Jews, so having them all in one place is fine by them.
Ethno-nationalists gonna ethno-nationalist
A lot of racists don't think they're racist because they don't hate "others", they just think they belong in their own place. They're angry that the "others" are where they are.
They're still raging pieces of shit. I'm just sharing some of their thoughts. Being a white drunk in Texas gives me the opportunity to hear all kinds of dumb shit.
Relevant username, and can confirm.
They all set aside their differences and appreciate their true goals of enriching themselves through being fascist bootlickers
Absolutely.
The Zionist wing of the Republican party doesn't care at all about Jews. They're Christian fundamentalists who believe that the Jews need to control the holy land so that Jesus can come back and end the world. They only want the Jews in Israel long enough to fulfill that purpose, then they want them to be wiped out and go to hell.
They’re the same wing. They believe that the current Jewish state isn’t Jewish enough and that the true Judaism is actually Christianity.
I wish I was kidding, but I actually know people that fall into this camp.
They bond over their shared love of genocide.
They did nazi this coming.
Zionists tell Jews to get out of America and go fight brown people in the middle east.
Being a Nazi and trying to get Jews to emigrate go hand in hand.
One 1937 Nazi plan was to send all the Jews to Madagascar.
Yeah that worked great with Liberia.
Does anyone remember this?
So where the f**k is she now, during CPAC? Is she hiding out or something?
Conservatives and Republicans are synonymous with Russians and Nazis. The CPAC convention is the indisputable proof.
So how long until they just go back to being outright silver shirts
They're there. This is that.
Hey I just read about those assholes in Rachel Maddow's book!
I mean, that's all CPAC has ever been for.
Wonder how many Nazis Ben Shapiro's going to take selfies with?
Yeah, that's fine. You can't really stop citizens participating in politics just because their political position is prejudice and deranged.
You can only stop their participation when they make violent threats, or otherwise break the law.
Of course I imagine CPAC are a private organisation, so have their own policy/ruling they enforce.
It's not "fine," because your actions are determined by your beliefs. They're not going to these events simply to share an ideology or philosophy, they're going to gain recruits for an intended purpose.
You might be able to have any groups found to be affiliated with Nazi beliefs labelled a terrorist organisation, as they're essentially established to spread hate and fear towards Jewish people.
But without that legal framework adjustment you will probably get arrested if you're caught punching a Nazi.
So where's the campaign to have these groups defined as terrorist organisations? I would support that.
But, as you said, it’s a private organization, focused on Conservative Political Action. What’s discussed there should more or less fit the agenda of the Republican Party, I figure if someone goes there and starts preaching socialism they’d get kicked.
The fact they aren’t kicking Nazis is at the very least admitting they’re not opposed to their ideas, and if we follow the Nazi bar analogy, they agree too.
Agreed, appealing to groups of disgruntled white men along racial and gendered lines is a long standing part of GOP strategy.
This is not the first time they've been involved with White Nationalist and Supremacist movements. Nor is it accidental.
Omg, who cares about political groups?
The families of the people killed by them care
Are you really asking what Nazis have to do with killing? A group famous for committing possibly the most heinous genocide in the history of humanity?
Nazis aren't socialists, they are fascists. These people aren't socialists either
You're a fraud
Do you really not know? Or is this some bait?
Check the username.
You know, I accidently did that with .ml a few months ago. Post popped up in my feed and I commented. Down voted and harassed, I was told to rEaD tHe RoOm. I blocked the instance and fucked off to saner places.
Well, no one ever said geniuses use social media daily.