Over 85 Targets Hit In U.S. Retaliation Strikes Against Iranian Proxies, IRGC
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So, do we get to start calling what's happening everywhere world war 3 or is there like some committee that meets on this?
Once some major players start conscripting people I think it'd be reasonable to call it WW3. This is the preamble
Hasn't russia been conscripting for a couple of years now?
Well it did say major players, plural. If you have major players directly in opposition and both feeling the need for conscription...
Iran has always had mandatory military service for men 18+. You can buy out if you're rich, but they've been drafting for years.
And Iran is arguably the #3 major player ahead of Israel who wants to keep their military action at home.
I don't see any draft in the US happening right now...
No Russia is not a major player. Remember those estimates about Russia taking Ukraine in a week, two weeks tops? Those estimates were based on Russia being a near peer. That assessment was incorrect. Russia is not a near peer.
Also Russia's capabilities have been significantly diminished because of the war in Ukraine. They can't project power anymore. Russia is devolving down to the level of North Korea. They have nukes, so have to be considered, but no real capability to project power. Not a major player.
And other countries are involved. China is somewhat involved on the diplomatic front. But guess what their priorities are? They're against Iran's "Axis of Resistance" attacking shipping routes between Europe and Asia. Because obviously.
So it's basically just Russia+Iran against everyone else in the world. At this point it seems like Iran is struggling to keep their proxies under control. Not exactly WW3.
You don't think Russia is a major player in this current shitshow? Or was it an attempt to belittle Russia?
I'm assuming its the latter because otherwise you're a dense motherfucker
Conscripting and openly killing one another* as in us on russia or china type shit would be more fair I guess haha
I mean, you're not wrong. But I'd rather remain in denial. I'm not old enough to avoid the draft yet lol
It's a world war only when western european countries are involved. Otherwise it's just sparkling conflict.
It's not a war until the other side is able to fight back.
It's never a world war until it's over and the dust settles on the graves of millions around the globe.
damn straight, feel the love
They used B-1s, lol.
That's a lot of finding out they just got.
Need to make space for the raiders which came in early and under budget.
Title of your sex tape!
Who are Early and Budget?
Under budget for who? I didn't think it was NG and the government already has a contract with a price.
B21 came in under budget for USAF, fact
Hopefully, they don't lose 1/3rd of their navy accidentally... again.
Why are you hoping that they don't? Given the shenanigans the Iranian navy has been up to, promoting much of it to submersible status would be a good thing.
Well, to be honest, this was a sarcastic comment to the time the US did accidentally sink more of their navy than intended. (A little more than 1/3 if their operational force.) The original goal was only 4 platforms IIRC. It may have grown a scotch before the end.
Which probably doesn't mean much to the sailors. Hind sight being 20/20 and all. Still a bit of an oops.
we dont need to strike Iran directly. once their international assets get frozen they've got a limited window where they can do anything, and we just blew up most of their anything.
finally Biden authorizes something.
Good luck hitting them at 30,000 ft while they rain destruction on the assailants attacking civilian shipping.
Turning the other cheek to these people just invites them to do worse.
Don't fire when fired upon, then. Sounds like a good way to get hit by a second round.
Don't interfere with the US or it's vassal states while they are busy comitting genocide.
That poor muscular guy was just minding his own business right?
Bin Laden viewed the lack of response to the USS cole bombing as an absence of 'chops' of the US to strike back, hence he intensified his plans to force the US out of the middle east.
To be fair though, Bin Laden was prepper and conspiracy theorist so it might not have influenced him heaps.
and he really fucked up hard if "forcing the US out of the middle east" was his goal.
Isn't this all because the usa is supporting Israel and Iran is pushing back against countries supporting the genocide there?
Ah yes Iran, that great bastion of human rights where they throw gay people off buildings and stone people to death.
Iran doesn't give a shit about Palestinians. Instability in the region keeps them in relative power. Everything they do should be viewed in that light.
Iran has politically, materially aligned itself with Palestinian liberation while the united states has aligned itself with Palestinian genocide. Your childish propagandized delusions about their motives are irrelevant. No amount of racist trope pushing is going to change it either.
Because with stability, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen would have control of the world's trade through the Red Sea and Suez Canal. Making tons of money on shipping through the region. Their regional power is de facto because other countries in the region are unstable and can't secure trade through the canal.
To anyone visualizing a comically long canal running straight through like 5 countries, you're not actually far off. Unfortunately, it's just a railroad to Moscow.
At least a woman can get an abortion in Iran lol. Glass houses and what not.
Also, your country should stop supporting genocide. I believe that was the topic.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...
Half of Americans still support the ongoing genocide so it'll be a while until it clicks, in the slow one's heads. The downvotes are funny Imo, notice there's never any pushback.
My friend you implied that LGBT people getting thrown off of buildings was equivalent to states banning abortion, that's why I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Uhh. Yeah.. Both are ending in the deaths of innocent people. They're definitely comparable lol.
Mothers in states with abortion bans nearly 3 times more likely to die
pushback... like arguing with the crazy people on the internet? no, that's a giant waste of time. it's simpler to downvote or block and move on
No, pushback as in defense of your barbaric laws. Ignorance is bliss though, so you do you ✌️
Why on earth would you expect people here to defend stupid ass laws in the US? We have more reason than anyone to fucking hate them, but that doesn't make your nonsense any less of a pointless strawman and a waste of time to respond too. Enjoy the five minutes you sucked out of life with this absolute waste of bits.
Hell yeah we just won in Afghanistan this is a great moment to start another winnable war in the middle east. Thanks Biden.
End of list.
Are they both in the middle east? Cause that's what he said.
And Iran and Afghanistan aren't as different as most other nations.
"Start"
The idiot puppet of Israel.
They're happy to throw away money like this and then complain about the sorry state of their democracy. Americans..
There are some posts that always seem unbalanced considering the communities voting history. This seems like one of them. Do the mods or users have a way to check on bots?
Are you saying that I am a bot?
No, not at all. These communities overwhelmingly support Palestine and think the US is enabling the genocide. There are a few posts where support for Israel is highly upvoted at first. I'm saying those seem influenced by bots or PR campaigns. I'm wondering if this post is a similar situation. I don't understand why you were so heavily downvoted.
It definitely feels like I get more downvotes in 2-3 minutes if I make an anti-zionist comment.
Oh I get you now.
Yeah could totally be that, but also consider that when elections are close americans tends to behave like hooligans and their tollerance for criticism of their candidate become very low.
Treating Biden like an saint will become more and more common as elections approach. Been there before.
Look at you, simping for Iran.
Yeah, that's how the world is: black and white. You must be known as a great mind among your people.
Well I must maybe learn your wisdom about cucks to be able to discuss at your level 👍