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lemmy.world

90 years old. Why do people keep voting for fossils?

I like Bernie Sanders and his views are younger than his age, but he's 82 now. He needs to pass the torch as well and endorse someone to replace him. He's done his service.

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

Because anyone without 50 years of seniority won't have the pull to get those sweet, sweet, pork barrel projects.

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chaogomureply
kbin.social

Committee assignment is via seniority. So yes, they can add shit to bills, but they can also do so much more.

For assholes like Grassley, that equates to being able to do a lot of damage.

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nillocreply
discuss.tchncs.de

It’s supposed to keep assholes like the tea partyers or guys like Gates and Greene from getting control in committees until they’ve been there more than 1 term. it’s also why they offset congressional terms. So a state won’t likely end up with all its reps getting replaced at the same time.

I don’t support octogenarian+ politicians (even Bernie needs to pass the torch), but I do support rule makers having to learn how shit works before getting committee power to decide national security or health funding and decisions.

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Aren't we having this backwards though? Executive power should lie in the executive. The legislative should legislate, the judiciary should apply justice, and all 3 should keep each other in check.

If we want law knowledge for an elected official to be able to exert its democratically elected power, then it should either be a prerequisite for candidature or better yet, a course on congressional process law (eg they take the training after being elected but before taking the position).

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Now imagine them making laws and policy

In fairness, they're mostly just in position to hit the "Yes"/"No" buttons. The actual written policy is produced by think tanks and lobbyists, then passed on to the legislators to submit under their own names.

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The 80 to 90 year olds in your life are for the most part not like the 80 to 90 year olds in Congress.

Study after study on aging and mental acuity proves that how you occupy your brain day to day in your younger years pretty much predicts how lucid and sharp you will be in old age.

These are my personal observations: I know a lot of old people. Aside from being a fly fisherman, a sport dominated by old guys, for many years I represented old people in legal cases against certain product manufacturers. By and large, guys who were engineers, say, are much sharper, have better memory, are less angry, and more rational. Similarly, the smartest and wisest old people I know are were career trial lawyers and judges. They had careers that demand intense focus, analysis, and memory, and they are sharper and quicker mentally than many thirty-somethings that I know.

Plenty of young people spend the day bouncing from one distraction or vice to the next, punching the clock, and basically spend their lives regressing and their brains get soft.

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toryreply
lemmy.world

He's looking sharp as a tack, alright. Now shut up and color, kids. You're nowhere near as mentally up to it as these pros.

Okay now, if someone could please help the honorable gentleman from Kentucky with his diaper... thank you!

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what people don't realize is that this isn't a jpg, it's a livestream of the senator. he's been frozen like this for months.

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I read that as the horrible man from Kentucky I liked my version better.

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Fluid intelligence declines with age beginning at 30, no amount of brain training can prevent an 80 year old from having meaningful and significant cognitive decline.

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LOL you gave a whole lot of anecdotes. Yes, being active and mentally engaged CAN decrease the effects of aging and prolong life. There is no guarantee, however. You see this with people who smoke for decades and are perfectly fine while that vegan you know who does yoga every day suddenly died of cancer.

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YeetPicsreply
mander.xyz

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

Edit: this is a quote from a scene in Billy Madison

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ripcordreply
lemmy.world

It's definitely unpopular but it seemed pretty coherent to me.

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Notyoureply
sopuli.xyz

It's a movie reference. After Adam Sandler was comparing the economy (or something) to the Poky Little Puppy.

It ends with "I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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I get it, but it doesn't really seem like it applies here.

People definitely either don't agree or don't like it, and like someone else pointed out is very anecdotal, but he's not making some nonsense speech here.

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sh.itjust.works

The US forces military personel to retire as early as age 62, with officers being forced out at 64 unless they're a two star or higher, in which case POTUS can defer retirement until age 68. Yet you let your politicians and judges stay if they don't die? SMH... New rule proposal: if you are going to turn 70 in the next term, then you're not eligible for election. And judges are retired the month after their 70th birthday.

10 USC §1253 subsection a: "Unless retired or separated earlier, each regular commissioned officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps serving in a general or flag officer grade shall be retired on the first day of the month following the month in which the officer becomes 64 years of age."

Subsection b abridged: "[...] a grade above major general or rear admiral, the retirement under subsection (a) of that officer may be deferred [...] by the President, but such a deferment may not extend beyond the first day of the month following the month in which the officer becomes 68 years of age [...]"

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Cue the people screaming “you can’t do that it’s ageist policy! What if they’re actually in good shape?”

Doesn’t matter. The ones in poor shape who refuse to give up the throne outweighs the few who somehow manage to stay relevant. It’s being out of touch with the 90% of the population below you in age, and that’s compounded by the bubble politicians live in already with their political games and maneuvering. All designed to keep themselves and their party in charge instead of actually giving a fuck about the country, willing to sacrifice their constituents for a corporate bribe campaign contribution.

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People would be fine doing this for those in the service while crying about personal liberties when it affects them. People wouldn't wear masks to preserve the life of your cancer-laden grandmother and they certainly won't retire early and give up their power.

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They already have drained brains. The vacuum already exists and the longer we wait the more powerful the implosion will be.

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Let's face it, he'll get the best care available because the stuff he voted for/against doesn't really affect him.

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jonnereply
infosec.pub

It's not like any replacement has any hope of not being a Republican.

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Ah yes, have a revolution to get rid of the king, then set up your own hereditary political dynasties to rule over the land.

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lemm.ee

Just leave you old fucks. Why do we keep electing geriatrics? It’s so fucking stupid.

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madcaesarreply
lemmy.world

Iowa just voted for Trump again. A whole lot of stupid up in there.

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Chrisreply
lemmy.world

Well it was the Republican caucus so there weren't exactly good options

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Republicans don’t usually xweet about untreated chlamydia

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Hypothetical question: If we Thanos snapped every government official over 75, how many would we lose? And in this alternate America, would you think it'll be better or worse?

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Average age of the Senate is 64 and for the House is 57.

68 Senators are over 60. Pelosi was 83 when she quit the House.

As of August last year, 15 Senators were over 80. 4 Senators are over 80, 1 is 90+, (D) Dianne Feinstein but she passed on Sept. 29th.

Pelosi will seek another term in 2024 because fuck the younger generations.

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If an 80 year old has wisdom and experience, nothing is stopping them from writing a book. They can always give advice, that we should all have the right to completely disregard, rather than be bound by it.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, who is 90 years old, is being treated at a hospital in Iowa for an infection, his office announced Tuesday.

“Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is receiving antibiotic infusions at an area hospital to treat an infection,” his office said in a brief statement.

“He is in good spirits and will return to work as soon as possible following doctors’ orders.”

Grassley’s absence comes just days before a deadline for a partial government shutdown.

Congressional leaders have agreed to a deal to keep the federal government funded into March, but both parties will need to supply votes to pass the legislation through both chambers before the Friday deadline.

The Senate is slated to take a procedural step to move the government funding resolution along later Tuesday night.


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Your periodic reminder that US Congress is the oldest legislative body in the world.

We need term limits, age limits, and competency tests, and we’ve needed them since at least the 1970s

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