I'd wonder, and maybe ask, if they need help, so I'd remember them. And people who believe they're handy might come up to chat to see what's being worked on
But someone in a PPE and a clipboard? Could be a worker, could be an assistant running an errand, could be a safety inspector, could be the big boss - it's a nice mix of "that person is probably here for a reason" and "that person might be a headache with a penchant for power trips". I'm not going to approach or remember that person
Best part - if someone with a ladder or a tool belt is looking around or hanging out somewhere, they look like they're lost. If someone with a clipboard is looking around, they're probably inspecting, and if they're opening doors or looking around somewhere unexpected, they're probably just looking for a quiet place to fill out paperwork or make a call - easy excuse with no loose threads
That's not a silly, goofy time. It's a tense, reactive, and hostile time and environment.
Don't listen to this meme. It takes a lot of planning and execution to blow up any target, regardless if you're the US Military, or some freedom fighting militia.
sugar into a concrete mixer and prevent construction and such
I used to work for a concrete precasting plant. A single 20oz bottle of coke will ruin ten cubic yards of concrete easily.
But it's even easier than that. You can spray forms/reinforcement with soda before the concrete is even poured, and it will ruin the pour because the concrete won't bond to the reinforcement.
Yes you will, because you sabotage effectively, in industries that are not actually important or only produce worthless junk or companies that try to kill off smaller ones.
In the off chance you’re semi-serious, it’s hard to have a compete systems level understanding of anything, so you can’t actually predict the unknown unknown consequences. It’s like trying to strategically projectile vomit, you’ll get most of that into the desired location but some of that acidic chum is def landing somewhere you didn’t intend lol
I know you would need to be totally anonymous to get away with it but it's it really worth it if you can't do it dressed as a supervillain and leave a calling card?
Your sabotage will be your calling card. Since ecotage has fallen out of favor, people will think "oh snap, the pipeline welder stuck again. I bet they could weld 10 miles of pipeline control valves shut in a single night"
Don't make threats (also don't kill people, it's usually wrong). It is too easy for Power to amplify and harness sincere backlash against your movement and whip it into counter progress outrage.
At a consultation stage don't threaten lives and infrastructure. Ask how the company will protect against sabotage and vandalism.
Are they building infrastructure that is vulnerable to ecoterrorists? If an ecoterrorist were to attack their pipeline with a high powered hunting rifle would it be an ecological disaster?
If a saboteur spread diamond grit abrasives on the rail track the coal cars travels on, would that cause damage, a derailment, or just increase maintenence costs? What about grease?
If seepage from the tailings pond was spread onto the plant manager's lawn, would he let his kids play there?
No, you can't. You start sabotaging infrastructure, people die. Destroy the internet and as a result people may no longer receive medication in time, they die. Same for electricity. No matter what you do, no matter how you do it, you will end up hurting people, which is what people like you seem to keep forgetting: infrastructure is not there for big companies to make money, it's there so that everybody can have a life to begin with.
Yeah, but the meme is trying to be one of those memes where people will take it literally.
As we've seen with riots already, it's not only corporations that get hurt, it's mom and pop shops too. Also, people will die, you could do it without someone dying, but the chances are pretty low.
Motivations are different between rioting and sabotage, but still, they're both destructive. Also, sabotage will pretty much escalate into riots anyway, so they're basically the same. Not hard to see that really.
So many who think bombs are the way to go. They are not.
None of the following is a good idea, either.
Fun facts I've learned while working for a living:
1.) A bottle of coca-cola, or any sugary drink, will ruin a concrete pour.
2.) Diesel equipment doesn't like water, gasoline, or eggs in the tank.
3.) There are two ends of a telephone line. One end is at the building. The other end is in a box nearby that nobody is watching.
4.) A battered hard hat, old steel toe boots, a dirty yellow safety vest, and an air of confidence will turn you invisible.
somewhere online is a copy of a pamphlet that was made available to resistance folks during ww2, full of similar fun facts.
edit - the simple sabotage field manual
Most of that is destroying a machine you work at over month and annoying the shit out of people.
Nobody questions a man carrying a ladder
I'd wonder, and maybe ask, if they need help, so I'd remember them. And people who believe they're handy might come up to chat to see what's being worked on
But someone in a PPE and a clipboard? Could be a worker, could be an assistant running an errand, could be a safety inspector, could be the big boss - it's a nice mix of "that person is probably here for a reason" and "that person might be a headache with a penchant for power trips". I'm not going to approach or remember that person
Best part - if someone with a ladder or a tool belt is looking around or hanging out somewhere, they look like they're lost. If someone with a clipboard is looking around, they're probably inspecting, and if they're opening doors or looking around somewhere unexpected, they're probably just looking for a quiet place to fill out paperwork or make a call - easy excuse with no loose threads
That's not a silly, goofy time. It's a tense, reactive, and hostile time and environment.
Don't listen to this meme. It takes a lot of planning and execution to blow up any target, regardless if you're the US Military, or some freedom fighting militia.
First: explosives aren't that hard to make just place them somewhere
Second: you don't have to blow up stuff. For example you can just pour sugar into a concrete mixer and prevent construction and such
I used to work for a concrete precasting plant. A single 20oz bottle of coke will ruin ten cubic yards of concrete easily.
But it's even easier than that. You can spray forms/reinforcement with soda before the concrete is even poured, and it will ruin the pour because the concrete won't bond to the reinforcement.
That is a fact i am glad to have learned
You gotta learn to have fun with it. Maybe use glitter.
Don't listen to this comment, I have tried small scale industrial Sabotage and I a had a very good time lage scale is obviosly more fun
What if you just want to hold a rave in the city's water treatment plant?
That's a different type of "blowing up."
Fun and shenanigans!
I dunno man, Hyundai seem to be have one hell of a goof off w/r/t immobilizers and it seems like they did no planning at all and are just vibing
Sorry can't hear you over the bombs I just detonated
What if I just want to blow up that ass?
I would question your taste, but I get too many compliments on my looks to believe that I'm as lonely as I think I am.
Yea this meme is ass
"it came from that tik tak app or whatever they call it"
Assuming you succeed, will you then get your makeup, glasses, clothes, and computer? Or internet? Or electricity? Or running water?
we get a silly goofy time. did you even read my post?
I can’t read, but I can tap dance. Do you want me to tap dance?
you can tap dance :)
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"Hurr durr, slaver companies like nestlé are essential for the production of electricity"
Do capitalist bootlickers even think?
We’re too busy licking boots and eating Micky Ds.
/s
Oh shit. I’ve been eating boots and licking Ds.
It all makes sense now.
Could we compromise on eating Ds and booting Micky?
Why are you eating a niche morrowind youtuber,not cool man
I really don't care if an a*azon center gets invaded by creepers
Yes you will, because you sabotage effectively, in industries that are not actually important or only produce worthless junk or companies that try to kill off smaller ones.
In the off chance you’re semi-serious, it’s hard to have a compete systems level understanding of anything, so you can’t actually predict the unknown unknown consequences. It’s like trying to strategically projectile vomit, you’ll get most of that into the desired location but some of that acidic chum is def landing somewhere you didn’t intend lol
Take memes seriously, and get into arguments with strangers on the Internet.
Hey, have you been reading my diary?? Tsk, tsk
No your good dude, i would love it if the world was simpler but sadly you gotta break some eggs to make an omlette...
No, you don't get it. When I abuse my power, it's good, when they abuse their power, it's bad.
Does that clarify things? /s
They didn't specify which industries.
The industrial ones.
just please don't go after the mayonnaise industry, i would die without my industrial music
This is why you target industry not linked to these but are destructive, like Nestle bottling plants.
Assuming we succeed in one act of industrial sabotage? Nothing we could do could disrupt any of these supplies on the global scale.
No, that's the idea. But that's also why we see very little eco terrorism. No one can handle losing what we have. Even if it is necessary.
But what if you like "you should try"?
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I know you would need to be totally anonymous to get away with it but it's it really worth it if you can't do it dressed as a supervillain and leave a calling card?
Your sabotage will be your calling card. Since ecotage has fallen out of favor, people will think "oh snap, the pipeline welder stuck again. I bet they could weld 10 miles of pipeline control valves shut in a single night"
Not sure about the valves but I sure wouldn't want to heat a pipeline standing right next to it
I prefer sabotage that doesn't have the potential to ignite thousands of acres of adjacent woodland. Somewhat counterproductive at that point.
So long as the costume covers your face, and the calling card is sufficiently misleading, why not?
Steal a Bagger 288!
Drive it around town!
Dig all the things!
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I bet their farts smell like starbursts.
Excuse me?
I bet their farts smell like starbursts.
No, no. I don't think I will today.
But why not?
Starburst candy is far too chewy and offensively sweet.
I frost my starburst with sugar before I eat it, n00b.
Yes, well, mythical people don't need to worry about hypertension, I guess
I bet their farts smell like starbursts.
Thanks, SatansMaggotyCumFart.
So...commit a guy fawks?
But plan enough to get away with it.
Some theory as to why you're doing it is also good but less necessary.
Step 1: Don't send a "Some of you Lords are alright, don't come to Parliament tomorrow" letter
Oh. Millhouse tries to be a meme again.
Reminds me of a comment I'd previously written:
Don't make threats (also don't kill people, it's usually wrong). It is too easy for Power to amplify and harness sincere backlash against your movement and whip it into counter progress outrage.
At a consultation stage don't threaten lives and infrastructure. Ask how the company will protect against sabotage and vandalism.
Hmmmm mm but I don't live in an imperialist country. If I do that the big companies will just leave for ever...
Yeah, let's sabotage industries and infrastructure and have loads of innocent people die as a result, all in de name of sticking it to corporations!
God this is dumb
it's a fucking meme
you can do that without killing people
Sure, but that is what it's saying
No, you can't. You start sabotaging infrastructure, people die. Destroy the internet and as a result people may no longer receive medication in time, they die. Same for electricity. No matter what you do, no matter how you do it, you will end up hurting people, which is what people like you seem to keep forgetting: infrastructure is not there for big companies to make money, it's there so that everybody can have a life to begin with.
I don't think this meme implied rioting, more like ecodefense stuff
Large scale industrial sabotage = Rioting
Butter = aluminium
Glass = fruit
Duck = running
Motivations are different between rioting and sabotage, but still, they're both destructive. Also, sabotage will pretty much escalate into riots anyway, so they're basically the same. Not hard to see that really.
this man has made so many logic leaps he isn't even in the same local cluster anymore
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