U.S. carries out new strike in Yemen after Biden vows to keep pressure on
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-warns-more-strikes-yemens-houthis-if-red-sea-attacks-persist-2024-01-13/?taid=65a1f5b8f13d5f0001c27feeOpen linkView original on lemmy.world112
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If we drop all political considerations, indiscriminately fucking with international trade routes is sure to get your ass kicked. Right or wrong don't matter. Call it terrorism or piracy or whatever you like, it ain't gonna fly.
Except you can't drop all political considerations and you sure as hell can't call this trade route debacle indiscriminate fucking. They specifically attacked this route because they suspect it supplies israel too.
Guess they should have stopped firing missles at our ships.
Guess America should stop arming israel and condemn them for their genocide.
lemmy.world once again demonstrating why it should be called lemmy.us
And .ml gonna ml.
Don't shoot at civilians. That goes for everyone.
A blockade of a state you are at war with is... acceptable under international law.
Unfortunately for you, international law supercedes your own interpretation of morality.
Was the blockade officially declared? I couldn't find a source
Here you go
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-say-they-will-target-ships-red-sea-en-route-israel-2023-12-09/
I mean who is gonna stop him?
This started meaningfully under Bush, Obama made it worse.
Hard to put the words out of the mouth but Trump was actually pretty restrained.
What happens what Cheeto gets the hot seat again?
Good intelligence squared on the topic here.
Was he?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers
From retributive action against terrorists performing unprovoked attacks against civilian ships of numerous countries in international waters?
No one, probably?
There's a broader point here that everyone seems to be missing, which is that the role of president didn't have the authority to do things like this historically. It's not about it being R or D, or if it's moral and justified 'this time'. It's that we've ceded a power to the executive which should be in the legislative branch.
I would really ask you to listen/ watch the debate I posted.
I hate when people say things like this like genocide is apparently not enough provocation.
Yeah, I'm sure those non-Israeli civilian ships not even heading to Israel are really provoking the Houthis with their genocidal actions.
Do you understand the idea of a blockadde?
Yes. Do you understand the idea of a 'neutral nation' or 'international waters'?
Yemen explicitly rejected neutrality. That's well within their rights when a genocide is happening at their doorstep.
You do understand that these ships being attacked are ships of neutral nations, right?
You do understand that... right?
And that the attacks aren't happening in Yemeni territorial waters or Israeli territorial waters, but in international waters.
You realize that... right?
... right...?
In international waters? Better have a strong navy
2 wrongs don't make a right. Uninvolved civilians just working a shift don't deserve to die
And they didn't.
Did trump strike Yemen or not?
People can cry all they want, but it’s the US who gave the excuse to Houthi, I think they should first stop their genocide before accusing others of terrorism, leave that to more respectful countries