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When on a diet, does you body have the same weight loss across the entire person including visceral fat?

I was wondering if your body gets whatever is considers the "low hanging fruit" first and would remove visceral fat last.

If so are there targeted diets for that specific fat?

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lemmy.world

No. You cannot target areas to lean out. This also holds for exercise: doing sit-ups will not burn the fat off your abs. The fat will also not necessarily come off evenly. Sometimes it does, sometimes the saddlebags stay until the bitter end even when your ribs are clearly visible. Genetics does play a role, but it can be dealt with.

(I'm a trainer and physiologist and helping people to lose fat is something I do.)

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angrystegoreply
lemmy.world

It's true that doing sit-ups won't help you target your belly fat, but it does make your abdominal muscles stronger and more able to keep your belly from protruding, so in effect it can make your belly look much flatter even without losing the fat.

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lemmy.world

Agree: for most people, the beer gut is more pronounced because of the laxity of the front abs (also causing a hyper extended spine which causes back pain), it's not all just fat. So, proper training and strengthening of the abs will help pull those things back in line, but won't do much for burning off fat.

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also causing a hyper extended spine which causes back pain

I'm a massage therapist for context. If I had a dollar for every client I've had that I wish I could tell "Your back would feel better if you had any strength in your abs and something more than a Hank Hill ass" I'd be able to afford a very long vacation

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It's so confusing when the OP puts opposite questions in their title and their post.

I just read the title, then saw your comment, and was confused why you said "No" then explained how the answer is "yes". Then I read the post to see OP mixed things up, lol

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HelixDab2reply
lemm.ee

Interesting. Is there a specific estrogen that causes that? I know that I used to get Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor) from my doctor along with my weekly testosterone cypionate shot to block the aromatization into estradiol.

I know that excess estradiol levels can do other weird things in men too, like gynecomastia.

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Not sure why people down voted you for not knowing... :/

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

Plenty of women put on belly fat too though. Most of us aren't the hourglass type. I do understand what you are saying though, thanks.

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lemmy.world

It’s different for everyone. There’s no real way to control it, and anyone telling you otherwise is full of it.

Not by diet or by exercise.

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Well, the can also harden and mold said fat now.

Looks weird as hell, though.

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Classyreply
sh.itjust.works

Cool, I've got a related question. Do people have varying amounts of brown adipose and can they develop more of it through training? I've heard that exposure to cold for long periods of time causes your body to produce more brown adipose fat.

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I think that some bodybuilders get to close to that minimum at competition, but they're also really close to death. And a few have died due to the side effects of the drugs they take to get down that low (esp. diuretics). This might be different now though; HGH has been doing weird things to pro-level BBers. Used to be that they'd use shit like 2, 4-dinitrophenol (DNP), which does really weird shit to your metabolism and can very, very easily kill you if you dose too high. Especially since it takes about two weeks for that dose to catch up to you.

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I was at 7% (measured on a fancy scale, not the bathtub method) as a male high school long distance runner and I was basically a fastish skeleton. I don't think that would be a healthy BMI for me twenty years later, even if I could maintain it!

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I was advised by a doctor to turn the water to cold periodically in the shower to increase the amount of brown fat the body produces. I take it with a grain of salt, but cold tolerance does seem to be a thing and that could be a mechanism for it.

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ExLisperreply
linux.community

Why hypothermia? I thought fat is needed for hormones to work correctly and going below 4% will deregulate your entire system.

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jet
hackertalks.com

Usually on diets where you go from a carb heavy regimen to less carbs:

  • first you lose water weight as electrolytes start to balance due to the change in insulin levels

  • the body removes fat from organs as first priority (sometimes called visceral fat). The body does not want to store fat in organs, but it does so only if it can't put fat anywhere else. Once you start to lose weight it comes from here first.

  • then we are at generalized weight loss, which is different for everyone.

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Natanaelreply
slrpnk.net

The body spends "easy" energy first (carbohydrates) and resort to burning fat when it really has to

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Natanaelreply
slrpnk.net

calorie deficit

Eating enough carbohydrates to cover your energy need isn't a deficit. I meant what I said, the body uses what it has available but prefers "easy" sources

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lemmy.world

i have no idea what are you talking about at this point, the question was if there is a way to target weight/fatloss, there isn't one.

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jetreply
hackertalks.com

Any fat loss should come from your organs first. The only reason fat is stored in your organs is because your body is unable to store it any other place.

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lemmy.world

fat loss should come your organs first.

I think OP asked for information not guesses

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jetreply
hackertalks.com

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=visceral+fat+loss+on+keto&btnG=

You're a very negative person, it's very difficult to have a conversation with you. You ask implicit questions, and then get angry when people answer the question to the best of their ability but wasn't what you intended.

Keto has no bearing on the loss on visceral other than it helps people lose fat. In any circumstance where your body has an opportunity to reduce fat, it comes out of the organs first. Because fat in the organs is extremely unhealthy.

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Calorie deficit helps people lose fat has nothing to do with Keto, you can gain weight in Keto too

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lemmy.ca

You can somewhat target certain types of fat if you're a heavy drinker and stop drinking.

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lemmy.world

Especially soda. Men literally drop pounds after stopping within weeks.

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sh.itjust.works

Does soda really cause the same build up as alcohol? Lol

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lemmy.world

At 40g of sugar for 12oz/355ml you bet. It’s way worse than people realize.

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Yes, but alcohol causes a specific type of fatty build-up around the liver area IIRC.

Just having a lot of sugar wouldn't do the same thing in the same way

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It is to some extent a last in, first out inventory system. So if you only recently put on weight in the middle then yes likely you will lose that first.

If you only/mostly have excess fat in your belly, yes you will lose more of that, but no, you can't for example keep the fat on your boobs and ass and lose it only in your belly. No.

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