Thanks!

Perhaps you'd like to give feedback on a separate but similar foss project: https://github.com/positive-intentions/chat

Just to be clear, my own open source code. Yes.

no. it isnt better or more stable than React. its all an experimental proof-of-concept.

its an idea im trying out. i thought maybe others might find it interesting.

im aiming to see if i can get something that looks and behaves like React, but works natively in a browser without the need to build or transpile. i think in theory it could work.

thanks! i'll make time to create those.

ive tried several variations in how to communicate about it.

with blog link/with repo link/with a mix

https://programming.dev/post/21417457

it seems my projects are well recieved, but i guess it just isnt interesting for the minority of developers that would consider contributing. i also dont explicitly ask for contribution. this post this the first time im doing that to see what it could yield.

Hi. Yeah I'm the creator.

I think I need to do a bit a of rebranding so that it's easier to find. "positive-intentions" isn't the easiest to type/remember.

thanks for the tips.

i typically mention the git repo's involved.

i'll give it a go with something like contribution welcome. my projects are on github and i think i have something setup for issues tracking.

i suspect my projects might be a bit complicated and so unappealing to a random contributor.

the difference with my approach is that there is no registration or installation. as a webapp its easier for users to get started.

localsend is a good approach and my project isnt anywhere near the quality seen there (or several other examples). i hope to be able to create something competative in the space.

(i am investigating providing the app natively for various platforms for better reach, but the core requirement for my app is to have a modern browser)

thanks. maybe i havent reached the point at which people are using my projects enough for them to to improve a part of it.

thanks for the tip. it seems nlnet seem to use radically open security. so i pinged them an email.

There are ways around using a central server to establish a p2p connection. It isn't well explained or demonstrated, but the concept seems to work here: https://github.com/positive-intentions/chat/issues/6 .... I'd like to explore this more with exchanging the required data over QR codes or NFC.

Simplex is a great approach for p2p communication. I can easily recommend it over what I have done so far. At the very least, it's gone through things like a professional security audits and seem to keep a high standard in their practices.

the org can be found here: https://github.com/positive-intentions

the prerelease demo linked in the post is not open source.

I have a weird setup with open and closed source.

I have open source examples of this code in action. If interested: https://github.com/positive-intentions/chat

thanks. this implementation is intended for a p2p messaging app. it works as a webapp and only stores data locally.

the signal architecture requires prekeys to be store on a server, in a p2p approach you dont need presigned keys and the double rachet starts immidiately (the tradoff is there is no offline messaging).

im investigating making it so that the service worker caches the initial static files... so page-refreshes dont update the loaded statics. there would be an explicit button to update the statics for the service worker. i have a basic concept working but it isnt finished enough for me to roll-out.

when open-source, there are additional capabilities that can be unlocked like being able to run the app from index.html without a static server. this would be stronger against anyone making changes on the network-level.

i understand why signal doesnt do a webapp like many other sevices like whatsapp... the p2p messaging architecture is fundamentally different.

completely understandable conclusion.

it started off as a curiosity, but i think there is something to it. I’m aiming for something that looks and behaves like react, but without the overhead of the react tooling for transpiling.

im not trying to take a share of that market, i come across this solution as pf of the chat app project. id like to build up this ui framework well enough to rebuild the chat proct with it... the chat app is made with react and material UI. with this framework, i am aiming to create a more simplified version of the chat app where the "no need to transpile" is a feature for its transparency. perhaps it doesnt make sense right now without the ability to effectively demonstrate it.

im faily new to blogging. that was added for setting up google ads. can you tell me what you mean by your comment?

“private and secure chat app”

I don't think it's a solved problem. There are countless nuances to it. So it's good to have various approaches.

i agree. those (and many more) are better choices for a number of reasons. i work on this because its interesting. its open source for transparency.

thanks for the tip!

can i just copy-paste that into the blog for free? if you want, and if you have github, i could list you as one of the authors.

ive tried hacker news (a prev post). its been mentioned before that its good for technical discussions. to me it seems pretty dry and unappealing to maintain a presence there (similar case for mastodon and discord). im faily new to lemmy and so far seems to yield the "most useful" feedback.

The app is only using (local-only) browser storage (specifically indexedDB).

So in a P2P interaction, the traditional concept of "the cloud" is just the physical devices connected over a direct webrtc