I'd love if people in my circles would get onboard with privacy and do that. I tried getting family on Signal and no one seemed to care about their privacy. I could see people simply not joining the discussion due to friction.

It's almost like we should not expect privacy. Tuta looks interesting, but again it's the lock in and they use their own proprietary encryption

I thought that Motorola and GrapheneOS were collaborating on a new phone. Which makes you wonder seeing as you stated that Motorola is a Chinese company based jn the USA how that would work.

No you're understanding me. It's impossible to avoid Google as over almost everyone uses them. My thought really is if it's worth even trying. I can use a better service, but Google will still get my emails as most of my circle uses Google.

Yeah, it seems like a baazar relationship. Much like religion and government. I'm not sure who this will work with GrapheneOS and Motorola being bed fellows. That said GrapheneOS currently runs in Pixel phones and it's open source (I believe) so it would work.