Good night. Going to bed now.

I don't know. I just joined a new instance hoping it would be better. Spoiler: It's not better.

The political discussion here would be much more enticing if these "communists" actually supported communist ideals. This is just state worship.

Leftism is dead and buried. Look up the concept of a "deformed worker's state" and tell me it doesn't describe China to a tee.

Trotsky was right and was assassinated for it.

You've refused to stay on topic and deflected at every turn with irrelevant information. That's not a "constructive conversation" either.

I do get passionate when it comes to these things. It's alarming and disheartening to see people's lives just shrugged off and disrespected.

I do apologize for getting feisty at you.

I don't agree witg the idea that "this place is crawling with history denialists."

See the above comment for more detail

You're inventing a motive to suit what you already feel about communists

Incorrect. I like communists. I like communism. I don't like denialism.

I would like to be more involved but I cannot in good conscience join any group that participates in denialism and revisionism.

Also what you believe occurred that month doesn't change the state's official stance on the subject.

Like I said. This platform prohibits posting anything other than the official stance of denialism.

There are plenty of photos of the dead scattered around bloodied and mutilated.

You expect me to ignore that and pretend it didn't happen?

I'm not trying to achieve anything other than having a discussion with you. Apparently that's an unusual concept to you?

You're the one who engaged me. You can't complain about a conversation you started and continued.

Anybody know a forum for actual leftist?

You're pathetic. I JUST explained the talking point to you and how pointless it was and you in your infinite wisdom knee jerked yourself into posting it.

We are discussing so-called "Communists" on this platform. You and I both know this place is crawling with history denialists (particularly the events of June 1989). Any "ideology" that is more concerned about preserving the image of the state over accepting responsibility is not an ideology worth my or anybody else's time. It's insulting and little and pathetic.

I'm interested in the merits of communism, but all this platform does is re-hash the same state approved talking points over and over. It's tiring and isn't winning anybody with an ounce of morality over.

painting a picture of us as claiming nobody died at all on June 4th

People are actually constantly claiming this on this platform. You're again being disingenuous by claiming otherwise or have your eyes closed.

The whole "tank man wasn't murdered" talking point is a pathetic attempt to deny the entire incident by re-focusing the incident on tank man and completely ignoring the events which lead up to it.

You're deflecting by focusing on the square and not the pile of mutilated corpses because you cannot defend that.

Explain to me how denying history because it is shameful is a "communist ideal" and then we can talk.