@readbeanicecream I've started @magASEAN (direct link: https://kbin.social/m/magASEAN/) for Southeast Asian stuff across the fediverse (especially) - there's still stuff the tag-scanning doesn't pick up well. But it's also shaping up to a more general interest magazine with a regional bent.

@chemical_cutthroat

If I do a book report based on a book that I picked up from the library, am I violating copyright? If I write a movie review for a newspaper that tells the plot of the film, am I violating copyright?

The first conceptual mistake in this analogy is assuming the LLM entity is "writing". A person or a sentient being writing is still showing signs of intellectual work, which is how the example book report and movie review will not be accused of plagiarism, which is very very basically stealing someone's output but one that is not made legally ownership of (which then brings it to copyright infringement territory).

LLMs are producing text based on statistical probability meaning it is quite literally aping/replicating the aesthetic form of a known genre of textual output, which in these cases are given the legal status of intellectual property. So yes, an LLM-generated textual output that is in the form of a book report or movie review looks the way it does by copying with no creative intent previous works of the genre. It's the same way YouTube video essays get taken down if it's just a collection of movie clips that might sound like a full dialogue. Of course in that example yt clip, if you can argue it's a creative output where an artist is forming a new piece out of a collage of previous media, the rights owner to those movie clips might lose their claim to the said video. You can't make that defence with OpenAI.

@stopthatgirl7

@LollerCorleone it's not online yet, but Chris Trottier is developing spacehost with that purpose iirc.

@haubles @vvuksan @renchap @piotrsikora @ernest @Nougat @bourbonmakesitbetter

@Tigrezno on your last point, you've hit on something fundamental about federated platforms which may be a deal breaker for you: that's a feature not a bug (the same named community existing across multiple instances). The federation is then you can access them all from where you are.

@dcx @Annoyed_Crabby lol i think because kbin was written as being both link aggregation like Lemmy but also microblogging like Mastodon, Calckey, Akkoma etc. And before Reddit, the expectation must be because the main audience will be bloggers who'll be visiting from federated spaces (chewah cam star trek). So upvote maps to likes; boosts is reblogs; downvotes go nowhere (since blogging platforms don't have these).

It's memang quite interpretative dance la - Calckey (and all the *keys) can give emoji reacts but it just shows up as likes on my Masto fork.

That's why I thought i better bring it up. It semi looks like Reddit but backend lain sikit.

Anyway.... I can see... But idk if adding a photo will add load so here's the direct link of this comm on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/77005/c-cafe-daily-chat-thread-for-23-June-2023#entry-comment-342733

Each comment has a More - then select Activity ok kesian runs away like Discord before the Trojan War

@imaginelizard

@be_excellent_to_each_other in principle as that's the point of federation, it's value-neutral to participate in such comms.

But say you're concerned about downtimes or culture or you're anticipating that instance will not be reachable or even it increases traffic load, then maybe you'll find it sensible to support a local community or magazine

@Otome-chan@kbin.social yeah, that's what needs to be tested:

1. Is the originating instance the true copy? Or is every copy of equal status? Kbin's handling of having local copies is probably the issue here because other fedi protocols don't choose to do it this way (and it's probably because this reduces the load from all the fetching; big fedi accounts have been known to induce DDOS-like results when a post gets popular)

2. If that can be confirmed/clarified, is the mod log a universal log only but specific instance changes not propagating? I think Q1 is going to be the pickle here - because it implies a lot in terms of coordinating copies across the kbin infra at least (not sure with Lemmy I've not poked around at all). Copy conflict is going to be inevitable at this point....

What happened is that you probably installed the PWA (progressive web app) which is basically a container for the browser window that's specifically pointed to your Lemmy instance. You can check your actual browser app and see the history, all your Lemmy activities will be there also :)

@unhedged these days I'm in too much trying to catch up on nonfiction and longreads, so fiction dah lama not read anything current. That I even read King is a surprise because I'm a chicken with horror.

My choices quite common I think: Terry Pratchett for sure, but he's really a guy whose worldview really became nuanced the longer he went on that it's almost a crime to say start with the early books in discworld, but they're good to set the stage and also to see how the world developed (it's a very loose series so you can really dive in and out). The other one is CS Forester - he does the Horatio Hornblower books and it's really the worldview of a white British man who came of age before the British empire ended so it can be very rah-rah. But in the 1930s he's got a good gig writing for Hollywood so his novels really go very fast - the Crichton of his time lol. I want to get into contemporary science fiction but i get really impatient with what they think is important and what i think (lol) but that said, Ted Chiang and his short stories are sooooo berhantu - his high-concept stories always stick in my head.

These Europeans (i noticed pre-2022 Fedi are dominated by them) damn love these PWAs, so practically every Fedi instance you sign up will have a little prompt to ask if you want to install.

@Annoyed_Crabby oh no, downvote also I can see, being a kbin user. It's the other microblog protocols that won't register anything. (if you feel nak lepas geram, this may be useful info, if you're adding any fedi accounts to your timeline/stream/subscription view (I assume you guys have this)

@imaginelizard @dcx

By the way, according to this thread: https://feddit.de/post/1037021, the_donald just got set up at sh.itjust.works but idk if instance owners can block an entire community only at the moment. Ppl are bringing up beehaw's reasons for defedding that whole instance and allowing comms like that is why. In any case they have set up their own instance too: https://patriots.win/

@unhedged ah yes, and famously written during his addiction years too - it feels so personal because it was :(

@imaginelizard

@androfire gimme more kawwwwfeeee

have fun!

Idk if they're the pioneer la but there's a mamak that's become quite a tourist spot (used to be a makan hunter spot for years) in KL, near Masjid Jamek, if you want to try other known places :D it's called Mansion Tea Stall, next to the Klang River side.

And just to provide an example, copying straight from my comment here https://mefi.social/@cendawanita/110585975153683699:

Yup that's happening rn. It really got driven home for me when my kbin account gave me a comment alert... For this account. It went to the correct person because the usernick is the same. Also the comment is to a post that is uh untagged 🙃 https://kbin.social/m/random/p/498351/I-m-thinking-once-there-s-a-protocol-i-really-like-just

Double-checking for you guys on Lemmy: you can also see who upvoted right? It federates into a like on the microblog side.

@Tigrezno yes you've misunderstood - what i mean to say is that what you're noticing is absolutely a feature of multiple instances/servers being able to speak to each other. You can access their posts, and they can come in their own communities of the same interest. If you mean to say local content as in (for example) gaming @ kbin dot social and you're on that instance but you'd like also read gaming @ lemmy dot ml, then yes. In that case, gaming @ kbin is the local content, and the Lemmy one can be accessed on federated basis. But you can post comments to both. The key thing to understand is in a decentralized system, there's no 'global' version or hub. You're basically visiting branches or chapters of say, the same set of hobbyists.

@crossmr can you confirm that he's posting direct to microblog or is the microblog slurping his content because it matches a tracked tag? If the first it's a bug, if the second it's a built-in flaw.

@NOOBMASTER