I don't get it. Are Google employees completely ignoring all the negative press their messaging apps get?

Everyone online agrees, that all these messaging apps that Google keeps pumping, just hurt each other.

Here is a list of every messaging app that Google has ever produced:

Android SMS

Bump!

Cloud to Device Messaging

Chat (not the same as Google Chat)

Disco

Dodgeball

Firebase Cloud Messaging

Gizmo5

Gmail

GTalkService

Google+

Google+ Hangouts (not the same as Google Hangouts)

Google+ Messenger

Google.com/talk

Google Allo

Google Assistant (it really did once have its own text feature)

Google Assistant Messages (and then this but only in a family group)

Google Buzz

Google Chat

Google Cloud Messaging

Google Docs

Google Docs Editor Chat

Google Duo

Google Fi

Google Friend Connect

Google Groups

Google Hangouts

Google Hangouts Chat

Google Hangouts Meet

Google Helpouts

Google Huddle

Google Latitude

Google Maps Messages

Google Meet

Google Messenger SMS

Google Pay Messages

Google Phone Messaging

Google Photos Messages

Google Schemer

Google Spaces (this was basically Google's version of Instagram and it lasted less than a year)

Google Stadia Messages

Google Talk

Google Voice

Google Voice Legacy

Google Voice Third-party Apps

Google Voice for G Suite

Google Voice FXO VoIP Gateway (Obihai)

Google Wave

GrandCentral Communications

Jaiku

Jibe Mobile

Meebo

Messages

Orkut

Postini

Slide

Sparrow

YouTube Messages

As the fediverse grows, there will inevitably be more centralized instances. Every big tech corp may want to start their own instance, similar to how most tech corps provide their own mail services.

There are millions of email service providers, but Gmail and Outlook are synonymous to email for a large amount of people.

Defederating with Meta and Tumblr is like Protonmail blocking every mail from Gmail. You just cripple yourself and make your instance useless.

This is a wild template

Federation with Meta will probably not have a huge effect on Lemmy. Threads has no communities after all.

It will probably be mostly a Mastodon thing.

Threads is a Twitter competitor. Same applies to Mastodon.

Twitter is only useful because companies, celebrities amd politicians embrace it. Nobody cares about ordinary Twitter users. Twitter is a platform for networking with people in the industry and announcing stuff to customers.

Mastodon right now is not an alternative to Twitter, because there is practically nobody important there.

Threads has better chances to overcome this and has already in a few hours pulled more VIPs onto their platform, than Mastodon in multiple years.

I am pro-fediverse, so I guess making Mastodon atleast as easy to use as Threads is a must.

If you look at statistics, Mastodon always gains a massive amount of users, when Twitter does something stupid. Most of these also return back to Twitter, the moment they realize, that Mastodon has no VIPs.

If Threads integrates well with ActivityPub, then people on Mastodon will be more likely to stay, because Threads gives fediverse users access to the VIPs, that they used Twitter for in the first place. This stops people from leaving Mastodon in the short term.

In the long term Mastodon needs to advertise itself to younger people, because nowadays this is the only way for new social media platforms to establish themselves.

That's how TikTok, SnapChat and Instagram became popular. This would make Mastodon fresh, while Twitter would transform into a graveyard like facebook.

Also having more tech companies, media orgs, cultural orgs, universities and maybe even governments host their instances, would make the federated aspect stronger and the whole fediverse more scalable.

I use Hannah Montana Linux btw

Or perhaps just read a book -> based

Hardware-wise: Samsung Galaxy S series or Sony Xperia

Software-wise: Google Pixel >>>>> Fairphone > OnePlus

"Ragefarming" and "algorithmically filtering for rage" just means sorting by thread activity. Mastodon already does this.

OpenStreetMap. Google Maps is probably the best product in the field tho, even among paid solutions.

Linux low market-share (in the desktop space) has less to do with marketing and more with the fact, that Microsoft has made many contracts with PC vendors and professional PC users everywhere.

Normies don't install any OS. Businesses don't want to waste time and money switching over to Linux.

Marketing in the OS space is practically irrelevant.

Das Gefühl kommt bei mir vorallem, wenn englishsprachige Streamer oder Youtuber Statistken über die Herkunft ihres Publikums zeigen. Deutschland ist sehr oft weit oben, oft sogar über "echte" englischsprachige Länder wie Kanada, Australien oder sogar Großbritannien.

Wie gesagt nicht wirklich eine repräsentative Beobachtung. Kann einfach sein, dass überdurschnittlich viele Deutsche sich im Fediverse und bei meinen Streamern/Youtuber verirrt haben.

Mastodon is a bubble. You have primarily highly educated, tech-literate nerds on that platform.

Obviously people are more civil and polite there, than some raging uneducated losers and trolls on facebook.

As the fediverse grows, the userbase will obviously lose this current isolated tech-wizard school vibe, and feel more like going into a random pub in a big city. Regardless if Meta joins the fediverse or not.

Viele 3rd party App-Entwickler für Reddit überlegen künftig auf Lemmy umzusteigen. Mal schauen wie sich das entwickelt

Meta gets all the data as well, even if all people defederate.

ActivityPub has it in the name. All your activities in the fediverse are public.

The article talks about private data saved on your phone like health data, contacts etc. Threads takes those, Mastodon app does not.

Hopefully Threads can tank all the lawsuits from Twitter, so that Mastodon can operate in peace lol.

I wonder tho, how much Threads has copied from Mastodon

The Japanese smartphone market is infamously very hostile. Impressive that a newcomer like Google managed to thrive there.

LastPass is just producing bad news after bad news. Incredible how incompetent these guys are.

I mean Tumblr also wants to join the fediverse. They are smaller than Twitter, but still large to have some amount of influence.