@breakfastmtn "is this how americans really feel?" -- a lot of them, yes. 100%, there are plenty of americans who feel that way. certainly not all of them, but definitely a lot

@Davriellelouna what could we do instead? more transit, more density, being able to walk to more places we need to go. but instead we get speed traps harassing people who are honestly acting pretty reasonable (ok, obviously there are maniacs who are not reasonable -- but they all drive benzes and bmws, so a fine probably isnt stopping them)

@Davriellelouna I dunno, I think there are other ways -- obviously nobody likes paying a fine for doing a pretty reasonable speed with no traffic or pedestrians around, even if it is a CSZ. like, <60 in a 50 zone that is a 40 CSZ when there is nobody around, doesn't feel fair. But also those speed cameras are not just spotting traffic, theyre always watching you. The discomfort with them is real