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No rest for the righteous

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As an active Mormon, you are typically expected to:

  • Have a "good, better, best" mindset. Sure, what you're doing could be good, but is it the best thing to spend time on? Only things that involve the church are the best use of your time.
  • Read scriptures every day.
  • Attend several hours of mind-numbing meetings every Sunday. In the case of bishops, this is almost the entire day.
  • Attend weekly activities with other people in the church.
  • Avoid doing most "worldly" things on Sunday, effectively reducing the weekend to one day.
  • Go to the temple as often as you can, where you sit through boring ceremonies that take a minimum of a couple hours out of your day.
  • Research family history so you can do more boring temple ceremonies.
  • "Hold a calling," which is volunteer work for the church that can range from a few hours a month to a part-time (unpaid) job.
  • "Minister" to someone, which means you're an assigned friend that tries to keep the other person spiritually healthy.
  • Clean the church building on random Saturdays.
  • Watch 10 hours of General Conference every 6 months.
  • Spend 18-24 consecutive months as a full-time missionary. No, I don't mean 40 hours per week. I mean all day every day. It completely consumes your life during that time.
  • Even when that's over, you're still expected to seek out opportunities to bring people into the church. This makes interactions with non-members a lot more exhausting and inauthentic than they should be.
  • Get married ASAP and have lots of kids.

I'm sure there's more I forgot to include, but I think these posters get the vibe across:

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Always a good reminder

I'm not sure my comment fits in this community, but I hope someone finds value in it. Another clear sign of abuse is what's called "the missing missing reasons."

I've had at least several hundred (yes, really) conversations with my parents where I explained how they were hurting me, and every single time it would just go in one ear and out the other. Once I finally moved out and consistently declined to interact with them, they started saying stuff like "why won't you just talk to us about your concerns? We want to have a relationship with you."

It seems like the only relationship they want to have is one where they keep doing the same shit they've always done and I keep putting up with it.

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"But the Church is so wholesome!"

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Instead of actually being happy, I remember this distinct culture of everyone pretending to be happier than they really were. After all, living the gospel is the greatest happiness you can have, right? You must be doing something sinful if you're not happy!

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"But the Church is so wholesome!"

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For real. Teaching people to devalue what is likely the only life they'll get for the sake of some dubious afterlife is the most sinister perversion of delayed gratification that I've ever seen. The years of my life I lost to that madness will haunt me forever.

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Flash back to when my oldest nephew was given "free agency" to choose, to become a future missionary at the age of 3...

"We don't do infant baptisms because we believe that people should have the agency to make such an eternally-important decision on their own.

"... Anyway, want to come to little Timmy's baptism? He just turned 8 years old and has decided to promise that he will commit the entire rest of his life to the Church! I'm so glad he's finally old enough to make that choice on his own!"

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"But the Church is so wholesome!"

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I lean the other way, in that I think religions have gradually gotten better over the years due to societal pressures. Not great, mind you, just less terrible.

Either way, I totally agree that Christianity (and religion in general) is a plague on humanity. I know not everyone will agree with such a harsh statement, but I struggle to see the good in convincing people to live a lie.

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https://lemmy.world/c/we_lds is now a thing. Only has 1 post....

I was born and raised in the Church (like most of us), and I never once heard someone say they were part of the "latter-day saint movement."

Though I actually kind of like it. It's a more open perspective that acknowledges the existence of other churches that also claim to be the legitimate continuation of the church Joseph Smith started.

Come to think of it, a bunch of churches claiming to be the only legit continuation sounds a lot like the great apostasy. I'm sure it doesn't count this time because... reasons.

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They're watching and taking notes

When I was a missionary, it was fairly unsettling to realize just how much information about people and their daily routines was contained in the area book app. I shudder to think about the contributions I dutifully made to that database while I served.

On the other hand, I am pretty curious to see what they wrote about me now that I'm an ex member who's had a couple interactions with missionaries.