The short answer is no. Eby and the BC NDP keep chasing a mythical voter who will never vote for them. They’ve always been a Centre-Left party, but shearing off the flank was and remains a bold choice.

Eby has been a great disappointment and next election is likely going to end up with him being the big loser. The BC Green’s making a left turn is going to eat into the BC NDP base just enough to split.

Which I have zero empathy for. The BC NDP could have changed the voting system multiple times, and its failed to institute democratic reforms that are in their own self interest. So they’re the masters of their own demise.

There’s a quote in his book that I think explains it really well and turned me off of him instantly. “Crisis is not the time for reform” in context to the GFC. So while he was stumping at stating we are in a crisis, I knew he was going to be the worst version of himself.

Joly is pretty bad too. When Amazon workers successfully unionized in Quebec, it’s her brothers company that’s stepped in and been the scabs.

There isn’t a third option at this point though. China’s advanced fabs should be coming online by the end of the decade and will have a fully integrated supply chain. Especially since they found the silica they need. Which until last month was an absolute monopoly controlled by the USA.

So you really have only two choices. The West or China.

To be fair Trudeau also put caps on extraction.

Carbon Taxes will never work without a parallel system to reward cutting carbon though. You can’t just tax the externality without adding incentives on the other side of the equation. Unfortunately most people hate the idea of a Carbon Coin.

No they didn’t. Carney stole a bunch of Kate Raworth talking points and people bought it. “We have become a market society” was what pulled NDP voters and the left flank of the LPC in.

Exactly this. I understand that sometimes freedoms need to be traded off for security. However the freedoms we are giving up are making our security worse and not better. Canada is still a consequence free society thats being manipulated by mass propaganda. We are only making those abilities stronger.

Don’t really see much of a difference. Which once again was evident during the election when they had the same platforms. But hey, not like there isn’t a third option in Canada.

At some point this tired talking point needs to be laid to rest. Because it’s essentially speed running Duverger's Law and coming from the same people who bash Trudeau for ER stuff, it’s beyond hypocritical.

One makes you feel better about yourself than the other? Thats the literal difference. Carney already lives up Trumps ass. He repealed a lot of the Trudeau policy around the environment. He’s passing draconian security legislation. He’s tariffed the shit out of inputs that we cannot produce domestically. He’s pushing O&G to new heights. Bailing out developers. Killed Nate Erskine-Smith’s housing proposals he campaigned on.

So yeah, they’re the same clown as far as I see. The only difference here is that you like Carney as a person. Which is a completely failing of democracy.

I grew up being taught to vote for what I believe in, and not to vote against things. But hey, people like you pretend we live in a democracy. 2025 was the perfect illustration of how we have become a two party system with very little differences between the two parties.

But Liberals need to continue the moral relativism and zero sum electoral game to retain power. So they’re more than happy to keep pushing the narrative. I see more news about Poilievre from them than anyone else. It’s all ad hominem too. You can’t attack his policy because it’s your policy.

Oh yeah you also let a hard right Conservative into caucus.

Carney and Poilievre are the same person in terms of governing and ideology. Carney just did the classic liberal thing of campaigning from the left.

Edit: oh yeah and you’re also isolating people. You really think I’m a troll? You understand people can have different outlooks to you and treating support as a zero sum game does nothing but make you look like the Liberal elitist that you probably are. Maybe you should go read Value(s) again if you can get the pages unstuck.

I wish I could live as simple of a life as you where everyone who has a different opinion than me is simply a troll. Even on a site that checks IP and IMEI data.

But that tracks because Liberals hate democracy as demonstrated over the last year and a half. Did you help build the overpass over the floor.

So in order to defeat Conservatives you voted for a Conservative? You forgot to mention that his dissertation is heavily based on Game Theory. Weird that the guy with a Doctorate in Game Theory framed an election as a zero sum game.

Let’s not forget in 2018 when the Conservative's told Paul Wells they were going to do everything possible to get rid of the carbon tax. Then ran over Trudeau for years and years until it finally worked. Even Brown was a victim to this when CTV published slander to get him out of the OPC leadership race. Then the CPC just DQ’d him from Leadership.

But hey, you really stuck it to the guy you didn’t like by voting for his platform in a different suit.