Apologies for not being clear, I meant that I would hope just being vegan might subconsciously influence people to think about it, but I wouldn't hold any expectation or pressure them. It would be more of a hope that I have but I guess it wouldn't affect how I act or behave in any way. Is that still a deal-breaker?

I would respect my partner's wishes and not do any of those things, but veganism is a philosophy and not limited to diet... I would be lying if I said it wasn't... Is that in itself a problem? 🙂

To be fair, it's a lifestyle/philosophy that extends beyond diet into other purchases as well. But if I'm not trying to make them vegan, I don't see what the problem is? Aside from potential inconvenience of me not partaking in some of the same things as they might typically, though there are alternatives...

Would the sole action of me buying different products to them/non-animal derived alternatives qualify as making something my entire identity? Just trying to get a feel of what the specific issue might be.

Hi, I just wanted to ask something (not specifically related to this thread actually). It seems like most people in this community are non-vegans rather than vegans. Would that be accurate?

I think it's an ethical, environmentally beneficial and healthy choice. But that doesn't mean I think someone who doesn't make that choice is automatically a bad person. That's where I feel like nonvegans might be projecting that idea a little bit, to be honest.

That's honestly encouraging, thanks :)

Well most non-vegans here did say they wouldn't date a vegan or would have some problem with it, even in the case where I specifically said I had no problem with dating non-vegans... in those particular situations, it's the non-vegans that have a problem, not the vegans. And not just in this thread either, those were the prevailing responses in other online question and answer forums that I found as well. So while some vegans definitely refuse to date non-vegans, it's clear that isn't always the case, and the opposite is often true as well. Neither are black and white, of course. I wish more non-vegans would be open to dating vegans who were fine with them and had no intention to try to change them, as in my case, but I understand the apprehension, and concerns about convenience, and of course it's their choice whether to date someone or not.

I don't think that tension is a necessary component of a vegan and nonvegan eating together, at all. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience but that's not inherently the case, in my experience eating with nonvegans.

It's not like I would actually try to change them in any way, though. What if I never mentioned it?

To answer your last concern, I can eat at pretty much every restaurant :) There's always something there for vegans. Well I guess the extent or quality of those options might depend on where you live, lol. But eating out with nonvegans has always been fine for me in that regard.

I would just add that eating out with a vegan and non-vegan together doesn't inherently have to be any more difficult than 2 vegans or 2 non-vegans. From my experience anyway, and where I live. :)

I think it wouldn't be a problem for me, unless it was a problem for them... that's what I'm wondering

Honey is a food lol

I understand... but just in case it made any difference, there are usually alternatives I can eat in most situations, even so we're eating the "same" foods but I just get the plant-based version. Like for example, a non-vegan can eat meat while I eat a plant-based meat. Or they can have cow's milk latte while I have oat milk latte. I've done this a lot already and it usually works well...

Eating out is... Impossible™ :) (it's a brand of plant-based alternatives)

In all seriousness though, I usually have options in any restaurants I go to, at least where I live. So presumably the issue of vegan options while eating out would be a non-issue in my case.

Well the idea I was getting at was that I wouldn't do any of those things, so under that situation it sounds like it might work? :)

Yes, I can accept it :)