The government doesn't want to fund them. The government doesn't want them getting funding from others. It's almost like the government doesn't want them funded at all. Oh, right.

I apologize if it came across that way, but that wasn't my intent.

Whelp. Idk how to respond in a way that doesn't provoke more conflict over things I don't think we should be fighting over.

So I'm disengaging.

Man, this response sucks. I put so much effort into trying to politely explain why this situation arose while making it clear that I'm cool with LGBT people, and I still get this demonization for not mindlessly siding with one side. Yeah, I did call out the person who posted in violation of a communities rules & guidelines then came running to dbzer0 to stir up drama -- that's wildly inappropriate behavior.

Whatever, y'all can stay apart of your tribe and blind yourself to any other. I don't think it's wise, but you're clearly not gonna listen to me.

Well, if you don't see how that aspect of yourself could be seen as political, I can see why you don't think you're political, but you're clearly very passionate about a topic that most other people recognize as somewhat political. There's nothing wrong with that in itself, but I think you can see a conflict like this was fairly likely if you're regularly posting indiscriminately with no little knowledge of the instances or communities you're posting in. It's not the end of the world nor is it an attack on you or your passions. You'll either learn to self moderate or choose different communities.

Now, if you don't mind I'm gonna step away from this conversation before an over eager mod/admin bans my ass.

My main account used to be on mander, and politics is kinda a general but subtle problem on mander. (I eventually decided not to have a "main" account at all after I realized how much creepy surveillance is on the internet -- little to do with mander's politics.)

Sal tries to prevent the political circus from taking over the instance, but there's a tension because the political circus is increasingly escaping containment and actually effecting people's lives. While I'm not exactly sure what Sal was thinking with this particular incident, I think it's hard to disagree that LGBT has become a part of the political circus and culture war.

Like, let's just lay it out at a very high level: LGBT people, like everyone, are weird. Unlike most other weirdness they're organized and vocal about their weirdness because of a long history of very real persecution. The LGBT community works very hard to "build allies" (make disliking their weirdness socially taboo) because that protects them from further persecution. This is wise in a sense: It's a peaceful mechanism of self defense. The issue is as polarization increases people can become confused about which side is the aggressor -- even if they know overall the LGBT were persecuted, they may view that has historical, or they may think the response is disproportionate, or some other similar view. This frustrates a lot of LGBT people who have personally experienced these persecutions because they know it's not over, LGBT won't be a non-issue anytime in the foreseeable future, and are rather fond of their communities. That said, I think the LGBT community knows it's become a political element. Debatable whether they're political pawns being used to seize power or a political faction in their own right.

I can't tell you whether Sal made the right call or not. I don't know where people should draw the line for apart of politics or not apart of politics, but I don't think it's unreasonable to want to step away from the political circus. Further, dbzer0 certainly doesn't have much room to criticize other instances who choose to moderate their communities, even if you don't fully agree on where to draw the line.

I'd advocate giving @[email protected] some grace with these judgements. They're hard to make, and if nothing else @[email protected] is very clearly a very political account who probably shouldn't be posting on mander in the first place.

I'm homeless. I have a PhD and I guarantee I've contributed more to society than this fat cat.

An attractive girl talking to me for more than a few sentences is automatically sending mixed messages. Obviously they don't like me, why are they talking to me? I'm confused.

Corrupt hack should eat shit.

We already know Trump rapes kids, murders infants, and was heavily involved in human trafficking. If what we know isn't enough to take him out, he'll never be held to account.

DS9 has the whole range of politics. Odo the Fascist. Kira the Terrorist. Quark the capitalist. Rom the proletariat. Garak the gay spy. Bashir the other gay spy. The whole range.

Fake cut on his ear thing too. I have no idea if the shooting itself was fake, but everything else around it obviously was. If it wasn't fake, the bullet missing might well make me believe in the devil. Live video of a bird landing on Sander's podium in 2016 remains best evidence for god. Humans clearly closer to the former than the latter.

Anti-nuclear. Used to be pro-nuclear because the energy density would allow for very compact energy production, but I don't trust the government (or corporations) to have any meaningfully concentrated nuclear material. Maybe solid-state nuclear batteries can be made to work and we can use that to dilute the nuclear material -- not sure about that yet.

These days I favor local solar and wind.

Wasn't this was the original idea behind cryptocurrency? A lot of government legitimacy rests on currency and contract enforcement. If one of those was underminded, it'd go a long way towards eroding the government.

Don't get me wrong, cryptocurrency fundamentally misunderstood money, so it didn't work... but it's a really interesting idea. It'd require a lot. Decentralized conflict resolution (to prevent scamming/theft), some means of managing inflation without destroying supply-demand responsive markets, a way to manage wealth inequality without destroying savings / retirement. I can think of some mechanisms, but it'd probably take many tries - parallel systems and institutions are the effective path to change anyway, but after crypto it'd probably get the scam label. Plus writing the code in the first place would be a massive pain.

An election without a lottery option cannot provide consent of the governed. Oligarchic Elections are the governmental equivalent of a rapist asking you where you'd prefer to take it, which honestly explains a lot about the current rapist ruler.

Sounds kinky

I'd be shocked if it wasn't illegal to hack your own car by now. People are very authoritarian about vehicles. They're fine with unreasonable prices, mass surveillance, facial recognition, endless registries, and forced subscriptions (yes, that's insurance) and eat up any justification the government gives them for it.

The billionaire families are "Bradley, Coors, Koch, Scaife, Seid, and Uihlein".

Start a fight with the statue of liberty - for symbolic reasons.

Sounds like they're gonna get charged with theft because they didn't destroy the cameras.

If they would have, hypothetically, used low-recoil subsonic rifles with suppressors (basically silent) to blow the cameras apart from a distance, they wouldn't be as much evidence against them. Maybe add an unregistered barrel and casing collector to prevent the bullet being used as evidence. Also, you can shoot from within a vehicle if you get the right angle and cover your plates. Hypothetically.