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kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog March 21st, 2025 - Leveling up the Kagi Assistant experience, meet Kagi in Tokyo, and more...

Next chapter in the Kagi Assistant experience

With this release, we're introducing a new sidebar, designed to streamline your workflow and keep everything you need within reach. This is just the beginning - the new sidebar lays the foundation for even more powerful features to come.

We're also rolling out Claude 3.7 Sonnet with extended thinking to tackle even more complex challenges.

As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts - join the conversation on Discord or share your feedback through our forum at https://kagifeedback.org/

Kagi, lost in translation, in Tokyo!

From April 21 to 25, a dedicated team from Kagi including CEO, Vlad, will travel to Tokyo 🇯🇵 to meet with companies interested in our advanced translation solutions. If you are based in Japan and your company is interested, please get in touch with Gillian.

We'd also love to meet our local user community while we're there. If you're based in Tokyo, we'd love to organise a dinner and connect in person. Looking forward to great conversations and good food with fellow Kagi fans!

Please contact Gillian at [email protected] to arrange.

Jobs, jobs, jobs

We are looking for a Head of Business Development and a Technical Architect (basically CTO equivalent in Kagi world).

Head out to Kagi hiring to apply and check out other open positions.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Based on the community's feedback, we’ve added a setting to always hide AI-generated images by default (suggested by #5998 @keyboardJones). You can enable it on Settings>Search>AI.

Kagi Assistant

Kagi Translate

  • Add token and other URL parameters to make it easier to use translate in private mode aminomancer
  • Fix translation of Catalan traditional time turly
  • IP URLs not being detected Hanbyeol
  • Inaccurate one-word translations nichu42 JW
  • Copied translation incorrectly removes line breaks LunarWatcher
  • Sync translation theme and language from Kagi Search frin
  • Add section in language picker for most commonly used languages Marcin
  • Fix some words being incorrectly identified as URLs nichu42
  • Add support for markdown goulot_situez
  • Clicking a link from a translated website doesn't redirect to translation of that page Rexios
  • Alternative translations getting cut off Peter
  • Page flashes in light mode theme for a second before turning dark nichu42
  • Source textarea steals focus while user is typing elsewhere tuesday
  • Selection of output text is unreliable on Firefox bkrein
  • Load alternative translations for user-selected text in the output box nichu42
  • Text alignment: When user hovers on input text, highlight the corrisponding part in the output RoxyRoxyRoxy

Orion browser release: smoother, smarter, and more secure

This week's Orion release brings big upgrades:

🔐 3rd party Password Managers & Adblock
We have updated support for uBlock Origin, 1Password, and Bitwarden extensions.

👓 User Interface
Several improvements concern vertical tabs, the sidebar, and favicons.

📺 Youtube and PiP
Several improvements enhance the use of Youtube and the Picture-in-Picture feature.

🪲 Crash fixes & Stability
Bye bye crashes on launch, instability if the browser stays open for a long time, and freezes.

For all the details, please refer to Orion's changelog.

Kagi on Socials

This week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

  • This TechCrunch article mentions Kagi as an option for users who prioritize not just a better search experience but also a more privacy-focused search.
  • OMG! Ubuntu covered Orion's expansion to Linux.
  • t3n, a German tech magazine, also featured Kagi, highlighting it as a privacy-friendly and ad-free alternative. Read with Kagi Translate here.

Kagi Community Reviews

We are deeply grateful to everyone who takes the time to share their experiences, tips, and feedback about Kagi, helping to spread the word and inspire others to discover its value. Here are some recent reviews to highlight:

Have a Kagi review you'd like to feature? Please share it and ping us on any of our various socials when you do!

The Kagi Way

We partnered with artist Chaz Hutton on a graphic that illustrates how Kagi empowers you to search without the noise, trackers and distractions. Help us share it widely!

https://kagi.com/changelog#6640Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Orion's Next Chapter: Linux Development Officially Launched

We're thrilled to announce that development of Orion Browser for Linux has officially started! Our team is working hard to bring the same speed, privacy, and innovation that Mac users love to the Linux platform.

This is an ambitious project that we expect will take approximately one year to complete. Our target is to achieve feature parity with the current macOS version by March 2026.

Want to stay updated on Orion for Linux?
Register here to receive news and early access opportunities throughout the development year.

https://kagi.com/changelog#6479Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Feb 27, 2025 - Sonnet 3.7 hits Assistant, early access to Ki, TikTok search and major Translate improvements

Kagi Assistant adds Sonnet 3.7 and the preview of multi-step reasoning assistant called Ki

We're happy to unveil the latest updates to our assistant experience. This release brings a smoother, smarter, and more intuitive interface designed to make your interactions simpler. Try it out and feel the difference!

We also added Claude 3.7 Sonnet to our model lineup! It's now powering our !code assistant and plays a key role in our advanced multi-step reasoning model, Kii. Currently in early testing, Ki is available exclusively to our Discord community members - join now to get early access (Ultimate account users only)!

And today OpenAI released GPT4.5 - we have already benchmarked it. Check Kagi LLM benchmark.

TikTok video search

Video search just got even sharper—you can now filter specifically for Tiktok videos. Find exactly what you're looking for, faster.

We are hiring a Flutter developer!

We just opened a position for a skilled Flutter Developer. Apply now or send someone our way.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

Translate

Try Kagi Translate at https://translate.kagi.com/

  • If on 'manual' translate mode, do a translate when the user changes target language #6037 @Thibaultmol
  • Improve Korean Localization #5305_334, #5305_329 @Hanbyeol
  • Don't show alternative translations in JP, if the only thing that's changed from original is the pronunciation being added. #5305_328 @frin
  • JP romanization is sometimes incorrect/overly formal #5305_328 #5305_323 @frin
  • German (Switzerland) translations using the wrong "ss" #5305_314 @psy-q
  • Translated text sometimes put into quotation marks #5305_306 @nichu42
  • Disable/export/delete translation history #5305_308 @ajimix
  • CTRL+A should only select the translated text, not whole page #5305_316 @RoxyRoxyRoxy
  • Add Hawaiian to list of supported languages #5305_320 @Bradh
  • Change URL params when translation is completed #5305_323 @frin
  • While proofreading hindi, strike/correct whole diacritic / ligature. @aldehyde.8578
  • Document translation: translate your .doc(x), .txt and .csv documents
  • Alternative translations: along the main translation, show multiple translation options
  • Word insights: fine-tune individual words or phrases
  • https://translate.kagi.com/iso_code now redirects to the main page, with the to language being set to [iso_code].
  • Make tooltips appear immediately, adjust style
  • Dynamic text size depending on length in input/output box
  • Increase max size of request header to allow longer romanization requests
  • [Forgot to credit last time] Add translation context field #5305_253 @Kate-Karui

Kagi on Socials

This week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Interested in covering Kagi on your outlet, newsletter or podcast? Hit us up! Our team is very approachable and we welcome any opportunity to engage with various communities about our latest features.

https://kagi.com/changelog#6276Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog 13th Feb, 2025 - Redefining Privacy in Search

Announcing Kagi Privacy Pass

Kagi now supports Privacy Pass, an IETF-standardized protocol ensuring your searches are technically unlinkable to your account.

Read all about why this matters and the details of implementation in our announcement blog post!

Privacy Pass support is provided:

  • Natively for Orion browser users (macOS/iOS/iPadOS). On iOS, make sure to have version 1.3.17 and above (expected to roll out globally today) and update your macOS Orion to version 0.99.131.
  • Natively through Kagi App for Android (make sure to have version 0.29, expected to roll out globally today)
  • Browser extension for Firefox or Chrome

A few important details:

  • Privacy Pass implementation is fully open-sourced for transparency and community collaboration
  • Kagi Privacy Pass is available for the Professional, Ultimate, Family, and Team plans.
  • Limitations:
    • It's not available for Trial/Starter plans
    • Privacy Pass mode disables account-specific features, like domain personalisaton (as we do not know which user is searching)
    • Privacy Pass mode is supported for Kagi Search in this initial phase, we will add support other services in the coming weeks. Check the blog post FAQ section for more details!

Kagi is redefining privacy in search. Try it now!

Kagi Tor Onion service

Access Kagi securely and anonymously via our new Tor Onion Service.

You can now access Kagi directly through the Tor network using our dedicated onion address:

kagi2pv5bdcxxqla5itjzje2cgdccuwept5ub6patvmvn3qgmgjd6vid.onion

See more information about Kagi Tor service in our documentation.

An updated comprehensive privacy policy

We're also excited to share our updated privacy policy, with simplified language and designed to clearly reflect our strong commitment to protecting your privacy.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Kagi Assistant

  • Kagi Assistant now supports O3 Mini, Gemini 2.0 Flash, and R1 Distill Llama 70B!
  • Announce new results from assistant using ARIA Live #5996 @fastfinge
  • Allow to hide thought process for reasoning LLMs #6025 @KamilKurde
  • Add o3-mini model to Kagi Assistant #6135 @RegChien
  • Formatting issues in Reasoning for R1 in Assistant #6148 @hansihe
  • Assistant should wait with naming a thread until it's finished if not enough info #5828 @Thibaultmol
  • Space missing below reference list in Assistant downloaded transcript #5833 @thomasjsn
  • Allow for disabling the CTRL + SHIFT + Backspace shortcut #5550 @4P5mc
  • Images cannot be pasted into the Assistant on WebKit browsers #6193 @laiz
  • Info panel not visible for new Assistant UI #6143 @azdanov
  • The assistant prompt "think about </think> tag" breaks auto-hiding of reasoning text #6181 @ssg

Kagi Android App

Privacy Pass support! You can add the Privacy Pass shortcut by holding the Kagi Android icon.

  • The app returns to the main screen every time it re-renders (e.g., entering/leaving split screen) #5875 @Philippe_Choquette
  • Assistant via Android app doesn't work with multi file uploads #5959 @Thibaultmol

Kagi on Socials

Here is this week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Orion tops Apple's App Store's list of superpowered internet browsers "to seriously level up your web browsing"!

And Android Police published an article about Kagi's new fair pricing model: "This ethical search engine will return your subscription money if you don't use it." The Verge also covered the news.

https://kagi.com/changelog#6172Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Feb 4th, 2025 - Introducing Fair Pricing

Use it or keep it

In months where you don't utilize any searches on your plan, we will automatically apply a full credit to your account for that month. This credit will be applied to your next billing cycle, effectively covering your subsequent month's subscription at no additional cost.

We have implemented this for the simple reason of being kind to our users. We understand some months you may forget to use Kagi or do not need it, so when you do, you can rest assured that we haven’t charged you for that.

This change is effective immediately, no forms to fill, no requests to make.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

Kagi on Socials

Here is this week's featured social media post.

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Fast Company just published an article highlighting how Kagi is redefining search by prioritising users over ads and clutter. It's a good in-depth read, perfect for sharing with anyone curious about a better way to search!

(define) scrappy: Having an aggressive spirit; inclined to fight or strive. (informal)

Yep, sounds about right!

https://kagi.com/changelog#6155Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Jan 31, 2025 - Translate and Assistant updates, SVG search and more

Spreading the Kagi idea

We partnered with illustrator Chaz Hutton to capture what makes Kagi different. Share and engage with the artwork on your favorite social platform - Mastodon, Bluesky, Pixelfed, Instagram, X, Nostr, LinkedIn, and Threads. Expect more to come!

A fresh Assistant experience

We've launched a major redesign of the Assistant interface, featuring:

  • A cleaner, text-editor style layout
  • Improved message flow and readability
  • Streamlined controls and interactions

This update is part of our vision to create a distinctive LLM interface. Stay tuned for more improvements, including sidebar integration and new thread management features.

In the meantime, please let us know what you think!

Kagi Translate evolves

It's now localized itself into 20 new languages, so it truly speaks your language.

The settings panel lets you customize translations and add context effortlessly.

And the history panel keeps track of everything you've translated. buttons are now grouped for easier navigation.

Plus, long translations are up to 3x faster, and we've relaxed content filters for more flexibility.
It's faster, smarter, and more intuitive.

Don't take our word for it - try Kagi Translate and see for yourself!

SVG Search

Finding vector graphics is now easier with our dedicated SVG filter - perfect for discovering icons, logos, and illustrations.

Safari native integration

Unfortunately we can't do this without your help. Share your feedback directly with Apple to help make it happen.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

  • Kagi Assistant "sees" earlier reply after you edit your message. #4699 @Value7609
  • Share assistant threads without requiring account #5256 @snowytrees
  • Recent (seemingly) versions of Claude are getting stuck with their own XML data attributing it to the user #5960 @WhatMatters
  • Universal Summarizer: Consistently never completes (via web or API) for a specific video #6111 @utf9k
  • AI Assistant "Stop" button doesn't provide feedback #6022 @tboby
  • Make the entire assistant window "hot" for drag and dropping files #6023 @RoxyRoxyRoxy
  • Real-time render of Latex block #5579 @oxlvlnle

Kagi Translate

https://kagi.com/changelog#6050Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Jan 21st, 2025 - Share Kagi and explore the best video search results

Share Kagi with the World 🌍

With this release, we're excited to introduce changes that allows you to share all your searches and Assistant threads with everyone.

You can now easily share image, video, news, and podcast searches by clicking the share icon.

Additionally, any Assistant threads you share will be publicly accessible to others!

Video search, leveled up

We’ve refined our ranking system to bring you sharper, more relevant results. We think this sets a new standard — try it and let us know what you think.

Plus, you can now see detailed channel statistics such as subscriber count, creation date, and total videos, right in your search results.

Pro tip: to avoid clickbait, you can customise your experience by selecting a random screenshot as the thumbnail or modifying video titles in your search settings.

Assistant

We're working on exciting updates to the Assistant experience! The model picker is now located in the top menu bar, making it easier to select a model for your next action. Plus, we've added two new models for you to explore: Deepseek R1 and Deepseek v3, both using a privacy respecting provider (see our LLM privacy guide).

  • Upgrading claude haiku 3 to haiku 3.5 in assisant. #5374 @JJ
  • Consider adding Deepseek v3 for Assistant #5798 @Nashwan
  • When using Assistant to generate code, it is outputting encoded entities #5169 @beetstabasco
  • Assistant fails to generate a relevant title with longer inputs #5880 @coreyward
  • Make the 'internet' option in the url for Assistant accept both true/false and on/off #5885 @CrunchyFritos
  • Desktop Kagi Assistant PWA: Opens External Links in the PWA Instead of the Default Browser #5749 @mackid1993

Improvements and bug fixes

Kagi Translate

  • Translations now sync scrolling between original and translated pages for smoother navigation
  • We've implemented several changes to enhance translation speed, accuracy, and quality while reducing latency
  • Unable to scroll when showing original translation #5964 @Temanor
https://kagi.com/changelog#5937Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
bicycles·BicyclesbyAtemu

Experiences with different gearing on a 6-speed Brompton?

So I let the chain wear down too much in the past two years and the rear sprockets appear to be worn out and will need to be replaced. The stock 50T chain ring is also showing signs of wear but appears to still be good for a few years.

I wanted to use this opportunity to see whether I could switch the gearing up a little.

The 13-16 gearing has been surprisingly capable but I need just a little more hill climbing ability; the lowest gear (2.64m) is just barely enough sometimes. I'd like it a tad lower I think.

On the high end, I usually ride in the upper two gears on flat ground. The highest gear (7.98m) feels just a tad too much sometimes though and I then fall back to one lower (6.49m) but that feels a good bit too low. That doesn't bother me a lot but it'd still be nicer to have a gear that's just right.

On a downhill, the highest gear is always sufficient for me; feels pretty much exactly right. I wouldn't mind slightly more metres of development but, honestly, I don't care very much when I'm already going way past 30km/h and I don't ride downhill for very long usually. I'm unsure whether reducing the highest gear slightly would make me pedal uncomfortably quickly down hill though.

Stock and current config:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.644.146.49
High sprocket3.255.107.98

I'm currently thinking about a 44T chain ring with 12-17:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.193.435.37
High sprocket3.104.867.61

or 12-16:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.333.645.71
High sprocket3.104.867.61

The lower gears being lower and closer together sounds very nice.

In the higher gears, my hope is that the slightly lower highest gear would allow me to use it the majority of the time on flat ground because I suspect the second highest gear would feel quite a bit too low as a fall-back.

I could see 12-15 being an option perhaps but that also gets the lowest gear much closer to 13-16 again:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.483.896.09
High sprocket3.104.867.61

But obviously the lowest gear gets very close to the previous config again.

Where I have a hard time is imagining how significant the difference between 2.64m, 2.19m, 2.33m and 2.48m are in an uphill scenario. The jump between the lower gears in 13-16 (3.25m to 2.64m) in practice feels significant but not that large either and we're talking about a much lower absolute drop being gained in the low end by switching gearing. I don't know whether the practical effect of this is linear though and I suspect it might not be.

I'd really appreciate practical experience here. Have you changed gearing on your Brompton? From what to what and how significant were the differences?

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brompton·The Brompton CommunitybyAtemu

Experiences with different gearing for 6-speed?

So I let the chain wear down too much in the past two years and the rear sprockets appear to be worn out and will need to be replaced. The stock 50T chain ring is also showing signs of wear but appears to still be good for a few years.

I wanted to use this opportunity to see whether I could switch the gearing up a little.

The 13-16 gearing has been surprisingly capable but I need just a little more hill climbing ability; the lowest gear (2.64m) is just barely enough sometimes. I'd like it a tad lower I think.

On the high end, I usually ride in the upper two gears on flat ground. The highest gear (7.98m) feels just a tad too much sometimes though and I then fall back to one lower (6.49m) but that feels a good bit too low. That doesn't bother me a lot but it'd still be nicer to have a gear that's just right.

On a downhill, the highest gear is always sufficient for me; feels pretty much exactly right. I wouldn't mind slightly more metres of development but, honestly, I don't care very much when I'm already going way past 30km/h and I don't ride downhill for very long usually. I'm unsure whether reducing the highest gear slightly would make me pedal uncomfortably quickly down hill though.

Stock and current config:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.644.146.49
High sprocket3.255.107.98

I'm currently thinking about a 44T chain ring with 12-17:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.193.435.37
High sprocket3.104.867.61

or 12-16:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.333.645.71
High sprocket3.104.867.61

The lower gears being lower and closer together sounds very nice.

In the higher gears, my hope is that the slightly lower highest gear would allow me to use it the majority of the time on flat ground because I suspect the second highest gear would feel quite a bit too low as a fall-back.

I could see 12-15 being an option perhaps but that also gets the lowest gear much closer to 13-16 again:

Hub64%100%157%
Low sprocket2.483.896.09
High sprocket3.104.867.61

But obviously the lowest gear gets very close to the previous config again.

Where I have a hard time is imagining how significant the difference between 2.64m, 2.19m, 2.33m and 2.48m are in an uphill scenario. The jump between the lower gears in 13-16 (3.25m to 2.64m) in practice feels significant but not that large either and we're talking about a much lower absolute drop being gained in the low end by switching gearing. I don't know whether the practical effect of this is linear though and I suspect it might not be.

I'd really appreciate practical experience here. Have you changed gearing on your Brompton? From what to what and how significant were the differences?

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kagi·Kagi search enginebyAtemu

Kagi Search Changelog Jan 9th, 2025 - Connect with the world with search result translation

Use Kagi Translate to translate search results

You can now use Kagi Translate to translate search results directly from the search results page. An icon will appear if we detect that the search result is in a language other than your interface language (inspired by #5809 @KamilKurde)

Click the icon and we will open Kagi Translate to translate the search result.

Ever since we launched Kagi Translate last month we've been getting nothing but praise for the service. It exploded in use, especially in Asia.

And we truly see the value of high quality, privacy respecting translation. So we continued building upon it.

  • We've introduced speech input, making it easier to use Kagi Translate on the go or when navigating unfamiliar languages
  • We introduced romanization for non-Latin languages as well as pronounciation for all supported languages
  • The new Proofreading feature helps identify spelling and grammar issues in any text or even web page !

Just prefix any URL with translate.kagi.com/proofread to proofread any web page. Try it here on a random Kagi Small Web page.

New user onboarding experience

We've reintroduced our onboarding experience to help setting up Kagi to your liking. I guess you already went though onboarding so it won't matter as much to you, but it will to friends and family you send our way.

We also added some helpful tips to help maximise key features.

New model and LLM privacy guide

With this release, we've introduced the Deepseek v3 model to the Assistant. Alongside it, we've published a new privacy guide to provide full transparency about the LLM providers used by the Assistant and their data privacy policies. Check it out!

You can share your Kagi searches with anyone!

Simply click the share icon in the search options bar to share your search with anyone when you post online or in an email, even for people without a Kagi account!

Search improvements and bug fixes

Assistant

  • We've added the Deepseek model to the Assistant
  • No daily AI token usage counter shown on jan 1 #5834 @daffodil
  • Assistant 'Show Keyboard Shortcuts' Keyboard Shortcut Doesn't Work #5842 @forward
  • Providing image without prompt on a customer assistance is broken #5663 @Thibaultmol
  • Assistant does not remember custom assistant settings when changing threads #5813 @theDoctor
  • Assistant copy mouseover not appearing or cut off #5781 @Thibaultmol
  • Kagi assistant is unusable on my iphone se3 #5779 @Lees
  • Assistant Scroll Bar Regression #5588 @emptyjar

Kagi Translate

  • Added 5 new "fun" languages - Pirate speak, Elvish, and a few more... see if you can find them!
  • Add Pinyin to Mandarin Chinese translations #5311 @cas9

Kagi for Android

We crossed 5,000 installs goal and we submitted a request with Google to add Kagi to the Android choice screen in EU!

  • Password field on mobile app is not detected bitwarden #5262 @Arnaud
  • Android assistant doesn't allow downloading conversations #5715 @sapourli
  • OAuth login does not work on android mobile app #5428 @awfixer
  • Mobile app: selecting text and sharing to kagi (translate) doesn't auto select origin language #5642 @Thibaultmol

Kagi on Socials

Here is this week's featured social media post.

Tag our account or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

https://kagi.com/changelog#5807Open linkView original on lemmy.ml

Kobo handwriting troubles with mathematical notation

I recently got my Kobo Elipsa 2E and it's better than I expected, especially the simplicity of OS and how well handwriting generally works were a surprise to me.

Given that its handwritten notes features are surprisingly capable, I've been trying to use it to take notes for learning physics but quite soon ran into an issue in trying to use the advanced notebook:

In physics, there's a notation where you can write dx/dt as an x with a dot above it (), adding more dots the more often you take the derivative w.r.t. time though you typically only need 2 max. The handwriting recognition for formulas does not know this notation however and therefore converts any attempts to stupid stuff instead.

Additionally, I quite frequently write sentences that also contain some "math symbols" such as δ or θ or even just mathematical expressions such as L(x). Formula fields would recognise these just fine but no such luck with regular text fields; it tries to make normal letters or words out of these.
The maths formula mode cannot be used for annotating equations either as it garbles words into symbol structures.

The fall-back would be to just use raw drawing plots but my handwriting is quite poor and I'd rather have text because that really works quite well otherwise. I could write text mode until I need a sentence with a symbol in it but I don't know ahead of time whether I'll need it and by the time I know, it's already too late and I'd need to write the entire sentence again inside a raw canvas.

Are there any solutions or potential workarounds to my problems?

Is it possible to make the formula recognition aware of this notation somehow? I'll likely need further such niche notations in the future too.

Is it perhaps possible to have sections of text (or even formulas) that contain small raw canvases which don't get converted to text? That would also be a nice escape hatch.

Is there an alternative note-taking app one could side-load that works better perhaps? The hardware is surprisingly capable as mentioned; these issues are purely in software.

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kobo·KobobyAtemu

Kobo handwriting troubles with mathematical notation

I recently got my Kobo Elipsa 2E and it's better than I expected, especially the simplicity of OS and how well handwriting generally works were a surprise to me.

Given that its handwritten notes features are surprisingly capable, I've been trying to use it to take notes for learning physics but quite soon ran into an issue in trying to use the advanced notebook:

In physics, there's a notation where you can write dx/dt as an x with a dot above it (), adding more dots the more often you take the derivative w.r.t. time though you typically only need 2 max. The handwriting recognition for formulas does not know this notation however and therefore converts any attempts to stupid stuff instead.

Additionally, I quite frequently write sentences that also contain some "math symbols" such as δ or θ or even just mathematical expressions such as L(x). Formula fields would recognise these just fine but no such luck with regular text fields; it tries to make normal letters or words out of these.
The maths formula mode cannot be used for annotating equations either as it garbles words into symbol structures.

The fall-back would be to just use raw drawing plots but my handwriting is quite poor and I'd rather have text because that really works quite well otherwise. I could write text mode until I need a sentence with a symbol in it but I don't know ahead of time whether I'll need it and by the time I know, it's already too late and I'd need to write the entire sentence again inside a raw canvas.

Are there any solutions or potential workarounds to my problems?

Is it possible to make the formula recognition aware of this notation somehow? I'll likely need further such niche notations in the future too.

Is it perhaps possible to have sections of text (or even formulas) that contain small raw canvases which don't get converted to text? That would also be a nice escape hatch.

Is there an alternative note-taking app one could side-load that works better perhaps? The hardware is surprisingly capable as mentioned; these issues are purely in software.

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