Spyke
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why don't you guys scrobble?

From a privacy standpoint, i guess. I want to support open scrobbling with listenbrainz and the account isn't directly linked to a real acc. Why shouldn't I/ why don't you?

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Social engineering. The more information they have about you, the easier you are to immitate.

The threat isn't in any one piece of information about you; it's in the corpus of knowledge, the profile they can build. Your tastes in music - at the granularity of not only what you listen to, but how much, and at what times - can help narrow down:

  • how old you are
  • where (in the world, and maybe to the time zone) you live
  • your mother tongue
  • probably your socio-economic status

These are just the things I can tyink of off the top of my head, and I'm not in infosec.

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Depends on how much you let them link it back to you, but you're absolutely right: social media is a privacy nightmare. It can be mitigated; pick a Lemmy instance that doesn't require an email, and don't give out any identifying information, or just lurk. Many of us have multiple accounts on different servers, with carefully segregated personas. You do what you can; OP asked why (or why not) scrob. I see no reason to give out that information, only to give a company more information they can sell.

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They sell (sold?) the recommendation API. When you scrobble, last.fm got to build a corpus of data they could make recommendations from.

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angrystegoreply
lemmy.world

In totalitarian countries, those who listen to certain types of music are persecuted, because it links them with demografic that can be threatening to the regime. Even if your country is not totalitarian now, the existence of this data could be potentionally harmful to you in the future (just like any data, really).

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Yeah, it's great to be safe in your country. I enjoy it too, fortunately. But it's not the same everywhere.

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In quite a few countries some genres of music are actually illegal. Nazi music in France, most of western music in Iran, ...

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I do. While I could've self-hosted it easily, I'm just consciously OK with it being public.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I scrobble to a self-hosted maloja instance. No fear of your data ever disappearing if a service goes down!

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julireply
programming.dev

You could scrobble to listenbrainz as well. Why not supporting it?

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If you listen to X and there is another guy listening to X and Y, one could recommend Y to you. Not only that, you actually have an influence which artist is at the top. You get a database of your listens and anyone, including you, can have a look at mass audio scrobble data.

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I just started scrobbling with Listenbrainz. I do it through an anonymous account, and the scrobbling comes through my self hosted music server.

Iโ€™m trying it out to see if I like the recommendations. If I do Iโ€™ll consider it a fair trade off in privacy for now.

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