David Raya's entire existence at this club just bothers me right now
I have nothing against him personally, he seems like a fairly decent guy.
But he has been put in an impossible situation by Arteta and he is absolutely not so much better than Ramsdale that he should be starting matches over him.
Fucking shit show management . That's two goals he has given Luton today, and he hasn't been convincing in any match he's played in so far.
Agreed, this is one of two things that Arteta has really gotten wrong imho from a man management perspective. He cannot say he's rotating keepers and then never pick Ramsdale until he's literally forced to. Now both keepers look haunted and are constantly looking over their shoulders. It's a nightmare.
True, but you don't want to create a narrative that Raya can't take a bit of away day pressure either. I don't know why Ramsdale couldn't start at least one of the CL matches, for example.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy honestly. You don't trust your side players to be able to play so you don't play them with any regularity. Then they come in, with zero match preparation or match fitness, and don't perform as well, so you drop them again. If we want to win the league we have to use the squad more
I mean we are currently using Trossard like that. More just that Nketiah can't quite make an impact off the bench well and Nelson doesn't seem to get the chance to, for some reason.
This is peak English refereeing acting as an equalizer more than an objective arbiter of the rules. Poor little Luton are allowed to have a go at injuring our players because that’s the only way they can get a result. It’s pathetic.
That is the most SIMPLE, most TELEGRAPHED strike I've seen today. Just do the little sideways kneeling thing! Why are you relying on gravity to do your job for you?
Every time we're close to making a galaxy brain play, something fucks it up. They're not going to let us have tons of chances, we're going to have to force the issue
I hate that there's three matches I want to be following right now. Pizza cup doesn't matter much I suppose... on the bright side England are top of the group!!
They're literally walking now, come on lads just finish them
Ross looks exhausted. Lol
How the fuck are both of those not penalties
Same reason the goal stood at Newcastle.
Imma be real, kinda hard to celebrate still drawing Luton as much as Kai deserves the goal
I cheered, but more so out of relief we're not behind
If we're only separated by GD I don't rate o it chances to the league lol, needs to be all the points all the time.
We're never going to win on GD with the robot in Manchester
Triple change for Luton now, I reckon we can take advantage of it and smash 2 or 3 more past them
1st half thoughts:
Gabby J 🙌🏼
Could've used Ramsdale for this one
raya.
There ya go silence those twats
Holy shit, what an ending.
LOL did anyone else see the Luton fan give the camera the bird and walk away?
Don't blame him lol. Would've probably been a historic result for them.
No, I couldn't possibly be mad. They were all completely knackered, and if it wasn't Arsenal I'd want them to have the win
I concur. I guess it's the whole underdog thing, but I really want them to stay up. I'm happy for the current 3 relegation candidates to go down :)
That has got to hurt for Luton
SIXTY MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN
KAI HAVERTZ SCORES AGAIN
At least five times Gabby J had been pulled back when about to receive a through ball
I don't think there's any chance that they're going to score unless we gift them another corner. They're basically in a 5-5-0
To be fair, I'd rather this angle than the ones I see regularly from the local second tier Hong Kong team which is just... a singular tripod haha
at least with this we can actually see the far side of the pitch, and the top of some players' heads XD
Declan with the last minute goals again
Raya
David Raya's entire existence at this club just bothers me right now
I have nothing against him personally, he seems like a fairly decent guy.
But he has been put in an impossible situation by Arteta and he is absolutely not so much better than Ramsdale that he should be starting matches over him.
Fucking shit show management . That's two goals he has given Luton today, and he hasn't been convincing in any match he's played in so far.
Agreed, this is one of two things that Arteta has really gotten wrong imho from a man management perspective. He cannot say he's rotating keepers and then never pick Ramsdale until he's literally forced to. Now both keepers look haunted and are constantly looking over their shoulders. It's a nightmare.
@sensiblepuffin @LotrOrc easy thing would be ramsdale for all away PL games
True, but you don't want to create a narrative that Raya can't take a bit of away day pressure either. I don't know why Ramsdale couldn't start at least one of the CL matches, for example.
This and his use of our squad in general
It's a self fulfilling prophecy honestly. You don't trust your side players to be able to play so you don't play them with any regularity. Then they come in, with zero match preparation or match fitness, and don't perform as well, so you drop them again. If we want to win the league we have to use the squad more
I think him starting is fine, tbh, but not us spending 30 mil on him.
I don't think we should after this test drive
Eh if he's willing to not be first choice I would, Hein's not ready and idt Okonkwo stays (or is ready either)
There's no need for that for sure.
Throw that thirty mill towards getting paulinha or another replacement for Partey
Well Zinny got his battle face on.
Camera pans to Ramsdale and he stops smiling 😂
Almost Kai, almost
WAKKKKKKA WAKKKKKAAAAAA EHHH EHHHH
Sixty millions down the drain
Alright, they've made all their subs. Run them ragged and finish this
Sorry Kiwi... But he had a decent 60 minutes
I'm really happy with him, I pray for the day that we can comfortably plug Kiwior into our CB pairing with no drama whatsoever
Bro i just turned off the tab
I just turned off my do not disturb on my phone LMFAO
Oh no, it actually bounces off someone after Rice's head
still his goal, was on target iirc.
It was, it was just crazy to see
HOLY FUCK WHAT THE SHIT I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME RICE RIGHT NOW
Oh you fucking mad lads...this is this year's Bournemouth game huh
DECLAN YOU MONSTER
We were so close to being Spurzed. Crazy shit.
I wanted to watch it oh ffs
I am seething.
First Wilshere, now Saka. Protect your fucking players or watch their fitness deteriorate.
Did not put my money of this match being a goal fest...
I hate Orbinho
what'd he do now?
Those jinx stats
Now let's run away with this match
MARTINELLIIII
J
I hate this camera angle
I'll allow it, the stadium isn't exactly massive.
Seems like we're really close. Haha. The camera has to pan a lot
Luton fans so weird
Booing Raya and Saka like wtf
Let them, they'll probably not see players of that caliber again in that dump
aren't they moving soon? might literally not lol
Depends if they have money to finish the job right?
Surely they do, the PL parachutes alone...
Just wanting every advantage they can find, probably.
Kiwi actually quietly solid
That's seriously Jesus' first goal in three months? That's insanity.
First PL goal, he's scored in the CL
Yeah, but first PL goal is still insane. He's gotta get those numbers up
I mean that was Martinelli's second PL goal this season
Wow, you're right. Eddie and Saka are tied for most with 5. Weirdly, Fotmob says he only has one but I assume that's because Ake's face helped
I hope he gets a second tonight
I hope he gets a 6th
Yeah he does. Worth pointing out he hasn't played that much.
That's an excellent point. I'm not ragging on him, to be clear - it's just a bit of a comedown from last season
Ross Barkley doing the majority of Luton's midfield work
That's a bit better
Us: 3 goals from 2.02 xG
Them: 3 goals from 0.5 xG
We are not the same
Would have been a peach
Wasn't that a foul on Kai?
Kavanagh's in VAR, never gonna happen. but OI
You can tell the ref is new, he's actually carding them for challenges on our wingers
Booking for that? Twat
Rice!!
Jesus shushing the crowd haha
lol okay. You can see him telling the ref it's his first foul.
I love how the accumulation thing never seems to apply to the other team's fouls, and frequently our players get carded for our first offense
Bro... He was like pulling Big Gabi out of the way
Don't get desperate lads, stick to the plan
Throw on Cloe Lacasse
Jokes aside, our men's team could use some "finishers" like Jonas has in the attack.
To be fair, we do have Tomi and Trossard, but our injury situation is such that we can't use them like that
I mean we are currently using Trossard like that. More just that Nketiah can't quite make an impact off the bench well and Nelson doesn't seem to get the chance to, for some reason.
True, I would really like to see Reiss get on more but it's hard to replace either Saka or Martinelli
@Astrealix @sensiblepuffin odegard has run this game
Odegaard's been good, I'm just frustrated and want that little bit extra to knock them down
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Sigh. Why though
Claiming is supposed to be Raya's strong suit!
to be fair also no one's trying to contest it
No, our corner defense has been woeful today. Good scripting by them, I suppose
Aaron gets that one actually. It's a game where he actually can get a good game
@MHPengwingz @sensiblepuffin yeah, this crowd would have got him going
@sensiblepuffin i think ramsdale needs to play our away games in the PL
King Kai!
Well Luton have not let anyone scored more than 1 at home this season I believe
Can see why, they're blocking us well.
Alrighty let's start this BBQ
DECLAN RICE!!!!!
R SDKLJFLSKJFKL DF KJSDFK LJ
I have like no faith that we will score from corners anymore.
We need tall guys...
Raya having a mare. I'm off to class, fuck this.
Kaiiiiii
They would give that if it wasn't in the box
Sadly true, I think
i don't think it was in the box, tbh!
Eh, he's on the line but I could swear the contact itself happens inside the box
VAR are checking it so maybe it is, was hard to tell on first glance cuz his foot landed just outside. Probably not a pen though on extra watching.
From a tweet -
This is peak English refereeing acting as an equalizer more than an objective arbiter of the rules. Poor little Luton are allowed to have a go at injuring our players because that’s the only way they can get a result. It’s pathetic.
Nah it's not peak, they're actually giving cards for once.
Spoke too soon. Low bar he's set for yellows after that Jesus one, let's see if he gives one to every luton pull now.
eh, still, at least they're giving some to them, lol.
https://twitter.com/SamJDean/status/1732143555416604795
lmfao our club is crazy
@Astrealix truly is everyone eats FC as I saw someone write after the Lens game
also, happy cake day! which is apparently a thing on lemmy now.
both for the mens' and the womens'
Oh you fuckers I just turned it off 🤣🤣🤣
That's why I turned off do not disturb first LMFAO
I literally turned to watch PBS 🤣🤣🤣 and then i get a text wtf
Fucking hell.
Kai you loveable unlucky bastard
That is no good
don't think there even is a technical area here ngl
Just a reminder once again: no easy games in the Prem
FUCK SO CLOSE
I think it was headed for the crossbar but still. Things are looking up for King Kai
I'm really glad, it took a while but I'm hoping Arteta is able to bring the best out of him.
Yeah but one could certainly argue that's also an unlucky thing lol
Oh yeah. It was a great header.
Gonna miss the end of the game but as long as we start well that shouldn't be a problem.
Ref's under the crowds influence
A young 'un, first season in the Prem, and in a crowd like this. Kinda inevitable.
It's true. This is a good test of a ref's abilities
to be fair, can't be much harder to ref than like Millwall
Damn if that went in
JESUS CHRIST
What a shot
Credit to Luton, they're here to cause problems
I just want to send them into the abyss
Jesus needs to make that decision faster.
Having seen a clip of the second goal, Havertz does quite well there.
Give it man
Cmon now allow it keeper, you've had your wonder save of the match already
KH
hafta hand it to them, the atmosphere feels European. Probably easier when the stadium is the size it is, but still.
Just realised that in my frustration over Luton's third I forgot to get a hoodie on heading to class. Hands are kinda freezing ngl
BALL. FORWARD.
Ross Barkley....now that's a name I've not heard in a while
same thoughts lol
Last I heard he was in France
Just checked, he was at Nice for a year and joined up with the Hatters in the summer on a free.
Still retains his orc-like features
Saka's 200th btw.
How are we letting a header from there.
where'd they pull 5 minutes out from lol
The Mines of Moria
Raya. Raya. RAYA!
That is the most SIMPLE, most TELEGRAPHED strike I've seen today. Just do the little sideways kneeling thing! Why are you relying on gravity to do your job for you?
Bukayo, you cannot be doing that
COME ON YOU GUNNERS
@sensiblepuffin @Astrealix fitting that Rizz (aka rice) is word of the year!
Oh fuck off
Time for the 7-1 now
see the problem is you'er supposed to do the 1 after the 7
Ah fuck I can't believe they've done this
OI
Yes Kai
looked so close on the camera lol
I feel like I'm watching a game at Meadow Park
Need some FPL points fsor Saka too, while I'm praying
Keepers going super saiyan against us, what else is new
As an aside, just sat down to find the Dutch scores two and us only one. Damn those Scots.
No team GB
Yeah, at least Viv might get to go lol
OI
HOWS THAT NOT A FOUL
THEY'RE NOT HERE TO PLAY FOOTBALL, LADS
Terrorism ball
FUCK that was a great play
When's the last time a stadium this small made it to the Premier League?
Looks like this is the smallest ever at just over 10,000! Bournemouth is second smallest at 11,000.
So it is. Wonder if you include the First Division how long you'd have to go.
Martinelli taking up much of Zinchenko's responsibilities inside and deep.
crazy idea: Could we play Martinelli at LB, like proper inverting Zinchenko LB not just LWB with a back 3?
We kinda suck at defending set pieces
better this season than last, I think. Just confirmation bias.
Every time we're close to making a galaxy brain play, something fucks it up. They're not going to let us have tons of chances, we're going to have to force the issue
Benny does not want to lose his spot again btw lol
Just what we needed after silencing the stadium :/
Fuck Andros Townsend
Lads can y'all give Saka a bit of help
GABBY why not just cut it back?
Offside but still. I think all of our strikes are much better when they work off of instinct, and overthinking has fucking killed us this season
Billy mentioned this with Havertz as well, though that's probably more about his individual confidence and it's also kinda less there now
Yeah, I think it's more applicable to Eddie since he seems more naturally a pure goal scorer
Sixty million dollar man
48 touches in their box is insane.
So is them scoring 3 from 7 lol
They had a plan and they executed it
Yeah fuck this
Ruthless. I love it.
Vieira would have been good to sub on here...
Ok that doesn't look good
Saka just beat 2 at once
If you're worried about the pitch, look on the bright side: it used to be artificial turf here.
bloody hell
I've never been convinced of Raya, this game cements it
He's a Zinny kinda player: benefits the team but the bads can be devastating
It's not exactly reassuring.
Ugh Bukayo needs to work on his corners
Is that Ross Barkley??
You should be stripped of your club license if you advertise anything calling it "soccer" in England
6 minutes lads, let's go for it
Tbf, would rather draw Luton than draw Spurs 3-3
AHDJAKFJAKXJSJSKZK YARRRRRRR
I rather not draw at all
Just looking for some silver lining
declan rice is overpowered
Rip his balls
Oh fuck
Ooo that was scrappy but some decent attempts
Imma be real that's a pen
Edwards doesn't look like he's even happy lol.
that looked like a shove, not in the box i think but
nevermind nah replay looks fine
Oh fucking hell
I hate that there's three matches I want to be following right now. Pizza cup doesn't matter much I suppose... on the bright side England are top of the group!!
not only that, but Meado scored :)
KING
Martinelli collecting rebounds like it's basketball
Get one to Kai's head our new BFG
This commentator is making me want to rip my ears off. Everything Luton do is "brilliant" this and "brilliant" that.
First time watching commentators talk about our opponents?
More that he only has one adjective!
which one? haven't heard nothing like it on my stream unless i've just tuned them out or smth
Streaming some Irish channel "Premier Sports 1 Live"
oh same, i must just be not paying attention lol
Mate you're not hitting fans with the size of this stadium man
Did Benny get skinnier?