the truth is that those mods have demonstrated a sustained strategy of censorship and information control. they are petty and vindictive, and if they don't like you they will find a reason to remove you from "their" subreddit that they believe and act as if belongs to them.
pretty terrible community leaders, that's what they are.
personally i am embarrassed by the behavior of those mods. they have poisoned what was once a great subreddit and community.
@themeatbridge@Chives I get where you are both coming from. Practically speaking, Reddit can censor however they want. And our recourse is of course to migrate to federated platforms like Lemmy. But there is a movement towards freedom of speech on very large online platforms. (Although, if Reddit continues its decline, then it may never become large enough.)
"The DSA [Digital Services Act] also stipulates that users are informed about, and can contest removal of content by platforms, having access to dispute resolution mechanisms in their own country. [...] In addition, if platforms are not currently providing explanations to users about their removal decisions, this process will need to be instituted across the board."
That would only apply to EU, though, right? I suppose it would be possible for it to force across the board changes from some sites, but I don't know if Reddit would be one of them. Something to keep an eye on but not something that means I should give Reddit another chance, IMO.
Yes, as I understand, the Digital Services Act applies only to users from the European Union. And it does not apply to Reddit because it is comparatively small and declining. So, of course, don't migrate back :-)
We can vote with our feet, e.g. migrating from Reddit to Lemmy. And we can literally vote against censorship, e.g. this particular provision of the Digital Services Act.
The SS mods have been sus af for a very long time, mods in general usually sway that way as well. I get that the dumb ass admins put extra pressure on SS but that doesn't excuse all the bs
Keep in mind that the mods are doing what rich assholes tell them to do. Like politicians are used to stir outrage.
That's why we're succeeding; we're not buying the drama, we're buying shares.
I'm betting that many recent moves on Reddit were implemented to distract from useful narratives and churn ethical mods out. Thus we have Platinum Sparkles.
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hilarious, unsurprising, and gross.
the truth is that those mods have demonstrated a sustained strategy of censorship and information control. they are petty and vindictive, and if they don't like you they will find a reason to remove you from "their" subreddit that they believe and act as if belongs to them.
pretty terrible community leaders, that's what they are.
personally i am embarrassed by the behavior of those mods. they have poisoned what was once a great subreddit and community.
True all the way around.
Well said and agree
Notice the last two points from the Reddit TOS and how that relates to this issue.
Yeah, those are guidelines. Notice it says "please don't..."
I don't understand –– are you actually defending censorship on Reddit?
No, I'm not defending anything about reddit. It's reddit. You get what you pay for.
Ultimately, it's up to Reddit what breaks their ToS and what doesn't.
Good catch. Language matters.
@themeatbridge @Chives I get where you are both coming from. Practically speaking, Reddit can censor however they want. And our recourse is of course to migrate to federated platforms like Lemmy. But there is a movement towards freedom of speech on very large online platforms. (Although, if Reddit continues its decline, then it may never become large enough.)
"The DSA [Digital Services Act] also stipulates that users are informed about, and can contest removal of content by platforms, having access to dispute resolution mechanisms in their own country. [...] In addition, if platforms are not currently providing explanations to users about their removal decisions, this process will need to be instituted across the board."
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/12/how-companies-prepare-digital-services-act/
That would only apply to EU, though, right? I suppose it would be possible for it to force across the board changes from some sites, but I don't know if Reddit would be one of them. Something to keep an eye on but not something that means I should give Reddit another chance, IMO.
Yes, as I understand, the Digital Services Act applies only to users from the European Union. And it does not apply to Reddit because it is comparatively small and declining. So, of course, don't migrate back :-)
We can vote with our feet, e.g. migrating from Reddit to Lemmy. And we can literally vote against censorship, e.g. this particular provision of the Digital Services Act.
The reddit of old is already dead. What's left is just a corporate investment wearing the skin and pretending nothing has changed.
Agreed!
I assume more “Reddit doesn’t actually give a shit, or there wouldn’t be so many power tripping mods in the first place”
So frustrating - but certainly not the first time.
I was banned from Superstonk for posting about Lemmy on a subreddit unrelated to GME.
Shared it here when it happened. https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/25525
Madness.
Keep the activity up on this sub and this will be the new ss soon
(in a good way)
Ho-lee-sheet! I mean I know they are ban happy and clearly censoring but damn.. this seems extreme, even for them.
We must be close boys and girls! Pretty darn bullish honestly
The SS mods have been sus af for a very long time, mods in general usually sway that way as well. I get that the dumb ass admins put extra pressure on SS but that doesn't excuse all the bs
Keep in mind that the mods are doing what rich assholes tell them to do. Like politicians are used to stir outrage.
That's why we're succeeding; we're not buying the drama, we're buying shares.
I'm betting that many recent moves on Reddit were implemented to distract from useful narratives and churn ethical mods out. Thus we have Platinum Sparkles.
Ban the responder, not the brigader?
"The where doesn't matter"
WOW