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Heat Index in Brazil Hits 137F (58.5C)

It's official, red alerts have gone out across the entire country of Brazil as the heat index hits 137F. The high temperature combined with humidity has made it impossible for most people to carry out their normal lives. There's already reports of power outages. People can't work. They can't run errands. They can barely sleep. It's not even summer there yet.

Heat Index in Brazil Hits 137F (58.5C)https://www.okdoomer.io/heat-index-in-brazil-hits-137f/Open linkView original on kbin.social
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lemmy.world

They actually said this would happen.

And yet, we go directly to our graves.

It seems we want to be dead.

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It's a prisoner's dilemma; you'll be dead even faster if you're the first to fight back.

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lemmy.world

I was talking about scientists saying that climate change will heat up the planet.

Scientists told us long ago that we need to cut fossil fuels or the planet would heat up. And now it has.

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kbin.social

Yeah, let's burn some more rain forest and see whether it helps.

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Zehzinreply
lemmy.world

It definitely doesn't help but it's not the reason either

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Pretzillareply
lemmy.world

That graph has nothing to do with sequester rates, which is what forests are about.

Forests are a big part of the issue and we need to preserve them.

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Zehzinreply
lemmy.world

Damn, sounds like people should consume less of the soy, meat and minerals produced in that area.

By the way, do you happen to know what happened to the 400 million acres in Europe and 300 million acres in the US that used to be forest in the 1800s?

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lemmy.world

Yep, climate change was super well known then too, fantastic point 👍

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Zehzinreply
lemmy.world

Very convenient for those countries that they get to keep all the economic benefit from deforestation and be among the biggest emitters while the people doing what they also did get snide comments implying they deserve to live in conditions unsuitable for humans because of the evils they're doing

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sh.itjust.works

What do you propose then? Make European countries accoutable for mistakes made 200 years ago? Even though most of them are doing really well to transition into green energy? What would that accomplish, exactly?

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tax them, distribute the money to the global south. Less disposable income means less consumption, and those funds can be put to use building a green economy in the developing world.

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lemmy.world

No one on this planet currently had anything to do with any of this, we actually live in year 2023 where we know the consequences of those decisions so why the does that mean we can should make the same mistakes they made hundreds of years ago…they didn’t know any better, we do so we have to do better. Is that fair? No. Is that the hand we were dealt? Unfortunately yes.

We can either whine and justify doing the same shit over and over or we can be better and utilize the knowledge we now have and a choose a more responsible route.

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Ah, yes, the fuck you got mine approach. That's a great climate strategy. Also how the consequences of colonialism, imperialism and slavery have been solved, so you know it's means-tested.

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What is extremely sad is that Brazil has relatively very low emission and consumption rates

The rich dicks around, the poor pays the price

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Per capital sucks for these stats but the rainforest isn’t about contributing CO2 it’s about capturing it

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Burn forest, plant fields, too hot for fields, .. ., no profits!

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Royal Society fellow Daniel Fahrenheit consents to the use of his preluding temperature scale.

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kbin.social

Red alerts have been issued for almost 3,000 towns and cities across Brazil, which have been experiencing an unprecedented heatwave.

Rio de Janeiro recorded 42.5C on Sunday - a record for November - and high humidity on Tuesday meant that it felt like 58.5C, municipal authorities said.

More than a hundred million people have been affected by the heat, which is expected to last until at least Friday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67422663?ref=okdoomer.io

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kbin.social

I think what matters here is that the humidity makes this a wet bulb or something similar to a wet bulb instead of actually an oven. It's super doom but it's a slightly different and honestly worse kind.

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Today's high temp and humidity in Rio gives them a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature of 77⁰F, which is not great. WBGT of 80⁰-90⁰F is the danger zone, and recent research has suggested that WBGT 85⁰ is probably a more realistic upper limit of human safety.

Sources if you would like to do some doom math yourself:

https://www.wunderground.com/weather/br/rio-de-janeiro

https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/wet-bulb

https://nicholasinstitute.duke.edu/project/heat-policy-innovation-hub/what-is-wet-bulb-globe-temperature-wbgt#:~:text=Typically%2C%20any%20WBGT%20above%2090,to%20protect%20against%20heat%20stress.

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00738.2021

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We definitely are! It's been a week since I got some sleep ... It's been 37°C to 40°C every day in my city and most people don't even have AC... I don't..

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lemmy.world

That can be as low as 34C, with 90% humidity. I'm not trying to make it less of a problem, just trying to tune the clickbait down from 11.

Fuck humidity though. I can't stand it.

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Ok, 42.5 I wouldn't personally survive in any humidity. My suffering season starts when it hits 28 outside.

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Coming from a place that sees -40c to +40c almost every year, I can confirm this is not clickbait

Shit I worked with a guy from Oklahoma and mid August we were working near Toronto (Ontario) and he couldn't take the heat and it was only 30 without the humidity.

That shit ain't no joke

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As someone who feels 34 is as hot as I can handle it and it only qualifies if there is a fuckton of humidity Ill take the bait.

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lemmy.world

All hail market capitalism!

Turns out muh free market IS the solution to all human crises.

Can't have human crises without humans, after all.

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When India/China run out of water from the mountains it is going to be really fun

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How the fuck did this article go from heat in Brazil to long covid research without any fucking bridge 🥲

I mean, I somewhat agree with the points its making and I'm heavily doubting the validity. When someone is not willing to further their own confirmation bias you really need to start asking questions.

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lemmy.world

Seems like a load of bullshit. This is the only article about it, and it's from... okdoomer.io?

Lol. Where are the mods?

Oh. This is the smaller world news. My bad.

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lemm.ee

It's November tho...Does Brazil not have a winter?

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kbin.social

A lot of Brazil is in the tropics, so no, not winter kinda latitudes.

But Brazil also extends to something like 33° South, where winter starts in June.

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