Spyke
lemmy.world

Reddit's admins don't recognize that they have very few levers to control the mod teams. They don't pay them, they don't give them any special benefits or consideration, and they (clearly) don't even respect them either. All that's left is the stick of removal, and that's only as threatening as the person is committed to being a mod on a site that clearly views them as a disposable tool.

They've already replaced some mod teams with new people, and i suspect that'll continue, and likely cause enormous disruption as people discover being the mod of a large subreddit sucks and is very tedious, dull work that isn't actually fun at all.

Considering how much money reddit makes off the vast amount of free labor provided to the site you'd think they'd have more sense, but, here we are.

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sorenantreply
lemmy.world

Imagine complaining about theoretical lost revenue to 3rd party apps when your business relies on volunteer work.

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CosmicCatreply
lemmy.world

I found this to be really confusing. On the one hand, they're losing so much revenue from 3rd party app users. On the other hand, 0.0001% of redditors use 3rd party apps. You can't have it both ways, spez.

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jscummyreply
sh.itjust.works

At this point, I think the percentage he gave was a bald faced lie. Older users definitely have a way higher percentage not using the official app

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lemmy.world

Agreed. Additionally, you couldn't breath a whisper about the official app without the thread turning into "you don't know what you're missing, try x,y,z app!" Which had to encourage more than a few app immigrants

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At the very least, anyone who bothered investigating a 3rd party app for Reddit was probably also bothered enough to post and comment on Reddit too and potentially be a power user. That's going to be a drain on quality content at the very least.

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The sole purpose for me using a 3rd party app was finding out you could block subs.

Switched to boost and purged all the right wing bullshit I could find

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The crazy part is Reddit had a profit sharing agreement with RIF... and was actually making revenue off it for a while. Then Spez shut it down with little or no negotiation in 2016.

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Briguy24reply
kbin.social

Fuck the Admins. They may be the owners of the ships but mods did all the legwork to make Reddit work.

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Yup, I was a mod of GME, a sub with 300k people and was going to stop using Reddit when Apollo turned off. Thankfully Lemmy actually seems like a legit replacement and there are some decent apps available in Test Flight currently.

Spez will destroy his own company long before IPO, can’t wait to buy long dated puts when they IPO.

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sickmatterreply
fedia.io

I haven’t seen such delusion in a business model since Musk bought Twitter and caused most of their revenue to cease.

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@sickmatter @L4s @dethb0y

Musk didn't buy Twitter to make money, Musk bought twitter along with his Saudi Arabian investors, to buy the conversation, and kill it, and in that he is reaping all the benefit he was looking for, as well as access to the Saudi market

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kestrel7reply
kbin.social

Who are the scab mods who are coming in? Are they getting paid?

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Damn. All I'm saying is, they're fools for not demanding Reddit pay them lol. Fuck scabs in any context, I guess.

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I seen some people theorize that some power mods got paid (or is it payed? Idk which one the reddit bot used to say lol) by Reddit, specifically i saw some ppl say that about awkwardtheturtle who got banned, but am not sure if its true or just a conspiracy theory, or ppl tryna make sense of someone caping so hard for a company and antagonizing regular ppl for free lol.

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Mayoman68reply
lemmy.world

It would be absolutely horrible if when the site inevitably becomes even more poorly moderated and overrun by neo-nazi adjacent content, if we were to collect some evidence of this and tragically send it directly to a few media outlets. It would be so horrible if those outlets then covered reddit like they cover Voat and 4chan now. A true tragedy it would be if reddit lost 80% of its advertisers overnight due to this.

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lemmy.world

I was a mod on a millon people subreddit. I threatened them to go private and they took my mod povers. Better to reign in hell to serve in heaven.

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Lemon_Rickreply
lemmy.world

Variden was once a great mod,

Until Reddit admins turned to fraud

So to Lemmy we’ll scoot,

Than be under Spez’ boot

And of his own hell he can be god

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Mereoreply
lemmy.world

Lemmy/Kbin are the way. Freedom vs a capitalist platform that wants to satisfy its shareholders.

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Joe Breply
lemmy.world

My sub was smaller it had 73k in 3 years. I deleted my account and gave it to another mod. Of course he re-opend it. Whatever!

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I mean, I might look like the personification of a gluttony demon, but we're happy to have you here.

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lemmy.world

Just a matter of time, people keep migrating from Reddit. Fuck you Spez

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Yoreoreply
kbin.social

Couldn't agree more. That knobhead looks to Elon for inspiration on how to run a business.

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Yeah, don't understand that. Elon's a guy that overpaid for Twitter: a site that swings between mostly unprofitable and sometimes slightly profitable and then saddles it with a huge loan with interest payments so large that it basically guarantees that it's already dead because there's no mathematical way for it to make enough profit to continue.

Unless the Saudis and other dictators aligned with them decide that it's worth giving Musk a break in order to turn Twitter into a propoganda machine / spy site to catch activists and dissenters, Twitter's already dead. It just hasn't finished bleeding out yet.

How can Spez look at that and think, "Oh hey, I want THAT for Reddit."

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SCmSTRreply
kbin.social

It's gonna be a surprise tag-team of musk&huff vs zuck&bezos.

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Not a fan of Zuck and Bezos either, but let's be real: those two would smoke the other team.

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Apollo shut down today, I’m guessing a lot of people rather than install the Reddit app will simply just start using alternatives like this site.

It’s what I’m doing.

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WytchStarreply
kbin.social

He sees big big dollar signs somewhere in this. No; he can not.

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kbin.social

He sees big big dollar signs somewhere in this.

He should probably take his pills. He's given superior competing platforms a chance, and he'll come to regret this.

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They need to show profit to their investors. They sunk millions into NFT bullshit and now the only way is to force everyone into the official app to serve ads and whatever other nefarious ideas they have.

It’s a short term plan, guaranteed.

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I feel so sorry for all the people I've worked with on the Reddit community team. They get to watch as spez personally destroys all their hard work.

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bachateroreply
lemmy.world

The problem is that they probably just don't know about Lemmy, while Reddit has had a 13-15 year (?) headstart.

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Lemmy also has a more technical onboarding process. Took me a bit of research to get here anyways!

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lemmy.world

So, OP is a bot, right? They have no comments and only posts. Where are they scraping these posts from? I'm really not a fan of repost bots, I gotta say.

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lemmy.world

I think there are a lot of people cross-posting stuff to generate traffic and discussion

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Yep and it's a great idea. People are just starting to collect their karma and this is a great way to do it.

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deejay4amreply
lemmy.world

Yeah there are some bots that scrape Reddit and some that aggregate RSS feeds into communities. I’m kinda not on board as most post are getting very little engagement.

It’ll be interesting to see how that all plays out…

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Kind of a chicken or an egg problem - we need content to attract the people, the people are attracted to content.

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