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lemm.ee

One third of the real cowboys were Mexican, another third were Black. Cowboy was a terrible job, and they were mostly despised as "saddle tramps' until the sheep herder/cattle rancher wars. The ranchers, and later Wild West shows, played up the romance of the cowboy.

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Capt. Wolfreply
lemmy.world

We literally got the entire western film genre as a result.

See the entire sub-plot of Oklahoma or McClintock for more details.

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Dagwood222reply
lemm.ee

Not an expert, but I'd bet that there were absolutely no TV or movie Westerns about a brave sheepherder.

edit = Apparently, there was at least one, 'The Sheepman' with Glen Ford. Thanks to Capt. Wolf for the link.

For a movie from [a slightly] Indian perspective, check out 'Little Big Man.'

https://youtu.be/7K4l5ZZe4-k

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Dagwood222reply
lemm.ee

You got me, partner. There was one. And you're right, that's a great cast.

But do yourself a favor and see 'Little Big Man.'

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Capt. Wolfreply
lemmy.world

I think I saw it quite a few years ago, but I'll have to refresh my memory.

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I am a fluent English speaker (in the US for a few decades) who knows Spanish (native speaker of Portuguese which also uses vamos), and thinks about etymology all the time - it never occurred to me lol. I just thought it was some weird old timey american thing lol

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I thought it funniest that "vamoose" is even considered a separate thing and not just Americans using a Spanish word

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1829, "move off or away, get out," American English slang, of unknown origin, perhaps related to British dialectal mose about "go around in a dull, stupid way." Or perhaps from some abbreviation of Spanish vamos (see vamoose). Related: Moseyed; moseying.

Seems a little long reach to vamos.

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kbin.social

Funny thing related to this: I've heard that the Chevy Nova (car) was put out for sale in Mexico. No one bought it because "Nova" = "No va" = no go. No one wanted the "no go" car.

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