Spyke
lemmy.world

It's not like men that jizz in a cup. It involves giving yourself injections and a procedure to remove the egg, with recovery time.

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frogfruitreply
sh.itjust.works

The process makes you extremely fertile and often comes with crazy mood swings. Plus you have to be marketable, which involves an interview process where you prove you're healthy, attractive, not fat, free of mental/physical illness, and have good family history. They often want competitive GPA and IQ scores.

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This is the most dystopian capitalistic eugenetics I have ever heard. I am happy it is illegal where I live

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lemmy.world

Plus you have to be marketable, which involves an interview process where you prove you're healthy, attractive, not fat, free of mental/physical illness, and have good family history.

That has to be true for men as well, right?

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It depends on the facility, but typically the requirements are less stringent. Many just require a disease screening and questionnaire about hobbies and whatnot. Once approved, men get paid per sample collected. Typically, clients will review details about donors and select from available samples.

For egg donation, women must first be approved by an agency, then selected by a client. Agencies commonly boast ~90% rejection rates as a selling point, then there's no guarantee that one will ever be selected by a client. Some women may be interviewed by multiple families and never get selected or compensated.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

The term "donated" implies it was for free. Shouldn't it be "sold" instead?

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Yes, but in this context 'donated' is used in the biological sense, not financial. She sold her eggs, but she is the egg donor.

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kbin.social
  1. If You Got Paid You Didn't Donate. That's Not What That Word Means.
  2. See number 1
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Hegarreply
kbin.social

The name of the process is egg donation. It's called egg donation because she is the donor.

That is what the word means.

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Powerpointreply
lemmy.ca

She sold her eggs. Correctly phrasing it should be she sold her collected eggs as a donor. Using the word donation implies a different meaning in this context.

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Using the word donation implies a different meaning in this context.

The word donation means something different in other contexts, but not in this one. Someone who sells their eggs is an egg donor. The procecess is egg donation.

In this context, donation does not imply no financial remuneration as it does in other contexts.

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Closer and closer to that dystopian future where selling your body parts for money and cybernetic replacements happens - except we don’t get the cool 2077 future and replacement parts.

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kbin.social

This is such an utterly perfect example of life in America that I am stunned.

Excellent pick, OP!

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Nunyareply
lemdro.id

Except she didn't go to school in America. Instead she "enrolled in a program at the London School of Economics and Political Science as an international student."

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lemmy.cafe

That might be true in our hellscape, but it is in no way valid. It's entirely the society's fault for not creating the material conditions that would allow all people including her to live in comfort to study such things.

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programming.dev

You've said UK a couple of times there but I don't think that's what you meant. In Scotland for instance tuition is paid for by a government body with no expectation to pay it back, you'll normally get your fees paid for your first run through University plus one repeat year if needed. Additional grants and bursaries are available if required, and student loans are also available if you still can't cover living expenses.

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I'm not too sure on the details so I could be wrong, but my understanding of the residency requirements is that you need to be either a UK national or settled immigrant and have been living anywhere in the UK for a few years. You'll also need to be living in Scotland specifically when the course starts.
If you're moving to Scotland just to study you'll have to pay out of pocket, but if you're in Scotland long-term you're probably fine. I'd recommend speaking to an advisor to be sure.

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I'd rather not live in a society that allows anyone to study in the London School of Eliteism.

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Oh don't really feel so bad for her than. She wants to be an economist she should live in the world the economists are building

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lemmy.world

It's so stupid and shortsighted to create these huge financial barriers that make it incredibly difficult for people to afford a higher education. Educated citizens create better lives for everyone.

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Thanks to my parents, I was free of undergraduate student loans, so I thought taking on student loans for my master's degree wouldn't be the worst decision. I enrolled in a program at the London School of Economics and Political Science as an international student.

Yeah, I don't think "the rich" are on the hook for this person's debt

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lemmy.world

Look on one hand its fucked up that student loans are this unaffordable.

On the other hand, its actually pretty awesome that we possess the science to be able to do this process at all, such that women who normally would not be able to birth children now can through the help of another woman donating eggs.

There's a fuck tonne of women out there who really want kids and are devastated to learn they are infertile, and this provides a solution for them.

Now, what would make this less of an orphan crusher would be if the government itself sponsored the process, so it was taxpayer money that funded the process instead of the infertile woman out of pocket.

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Num10ckreply
lemmy.world

on one hand it would be awesome if the govt just froze every womans eggs at like 18 years old, but then what would stop them from secretly building a prisoner/army/slave etc population?

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lemmy.cafe

We're not far off from artificial wombs, though. In principle, once they get invented, governments and rich people will start doing this, and extremely misogynistic countries will start killing off women since they would no longer be needed to make babies.

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candybriereply
lemmy.world

And have men do all the domestic work including raising those children? Unlikely.

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It's so heinous to think about -- the fact that it's possible for a country to forcibly cut a woman open and suck out her egg cells against her will is such B-level horror movie shit and yet it's so plausible. It's nauseating. Why even have women if all they're going to be is subjugated with no real chance to have any agency? Why would evolution favor such an evil situation?

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Tough. Rasing chickens and not even being able to have some eggs from them really sucks. Hope you can get some next time they lay

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Then you didn't donate anything, you sold it.

"I sold some of my own body parts to try and escape crushing debt."

There, fixed that for you. Unfortunately, many of us are in the same boat, so I sincerely hope you can escape now, good luck.

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