Spyke
lemmy.world

this makes use of an old windows specific vulnerability. Linux is only mentioned on the title, not again in the whole article. clickbait.

edit: downvote me if you want, but the original article didn't say a thing about Linux.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

That's from a completely different article.

And it doesn't say how this is achieved without already having root privilegies. I'm not sure I believe this can in fact infect a Linux system, except if it's already heavily compromised, for instance by a user logging in as root as default.

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.bashrc and .profile can be modified without root, as can autostarting .desktop files. I think systemd and anything in /etc require root though.
Also a lot of users set sudo to not require a password (I am guilty of this) which makes privilege escalation easy.

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It is a different article, but both articles are simply reporting research by Kaspersky, and Kaspersky goes into quite a bit of depth covering the Linux side of the threat, which is very real. PCMag focuses mostly on the windows side, because it's a windows focused site.

This isn't a single exploit, this is a "framework" that can take advantage of multiple exploits and will use which ever one it can find. You don't need to be "heavily compromised" you just need to be vulnerable to one of the compromises. And you definitely don't need root either.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

Not possible AFAIK, I don't use anything Microsoft, but AFAIK SMB1 shares on Linux are through Samba, and you can't just enable write permissions without root. So as I stated before, the Linux system needs to be already compromised.

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I'm not a Linux user (except for Chromebook and Android) so honestly the Linux section wasn't personally important to me. Another commentor wanted more information on the Linux side so I looked briefly if I could find an article that might be helpful. Linux terminology is all Greek to me so I honestly wouldn't know. I thought the article was interesting and I thought other people might find it interesting. The Linux part didn't even enter into my mind.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

It does include this:

quietly spread across a victim’s network, including to Linux machines.

But that's a completely ridiculous lack of detail of any actual vulnerability. Smells like bullshit.
The quote from OP is from a different article.

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lemmy.world

I wasn't intentionally trying to imply that it came from the article. That's why I posted the naked link. I wasn't really thinking about the Linux component when I posted the article.

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That’s why I posted the naked link.

Which is perfectly fine and dandy. I think some people just had a knee jerk reaction, based on a misunderstanding of context.

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sopuli.xyz

It does though: "On Linux, the malware assumes the name 'sd-pam'. It achieves persistence using systemd services, an autostarting .desktop file, or by modifying various profile and startup files, such as  /etc/rc*, profile, bashrc, or inittab files."

So technically useless . it can't do shit.

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It's always the one you least suspect, like disguising yourself as an impersonation of yourself.

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lemmy.world

A disc of malware resting on top of 4 malware elephants, riding a giant malware turtle

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Morris balanced on Michelangelo standing on the shoulders of ILOVEYOU holding stuxnet giving HeartBleed

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lemmy.world

According to Kaspersky, StripedFly uses its own custom EternalBlue attack to infiltrate unpatched Windows systems and quietly spread across a victim’s network, including to Linux machines.

Yeah I call bullshit on that. Absolutely zero description of any vulnerability.

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sh.itjust.works

From what it's describing, it sounds like it would only impact Linux computers that allow SMB1 access, such as domain-joined systems with samba access allowed. It sounds like this would target mainly enterprise Linux deployments but home Linux setups should be fine for the most part.

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Eyronreply
lemmy.world

They describe an SSH infector, as well as a credentials scanner. To me, that sounds like it started like from exploited/infected Windows computers with SSH access, and then continued from there.

With how many unencrypted SSH keys there are, how most hosts keep a list of the servers they SSH into, and how they can probably bypass some firewall protections once they're inside the network: not a bad idea.

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I think the original article talked about "spreading" to Linux machines so that generally tracks with what you're saying that it starts on a Windows machine that itself has access to a Linux machine.

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lemmy.world

My job still had Windows 95 machines running just a couple years ago. Could there still be Samba1 running out there or does Linux update differently?

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lemmyvorereply
feddit.nl

Of course there is. Unfortunately the average Linux self-hoster doesn't have much of a clue and probably runs vulnerable Samba (even if it's not S1). Of course it doesn't help that Samba seems to get a vulnerability about once a week. It's one of the most targeted pieces of network software you could run.

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lemmy.world

I know that Linux is a host of OSs but generally speaking is it up to the user to keep their software up to date or is there some kind of automatic updating process?

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There are automated updates, especially for security issues, but since Linux users feel they are power users and seldom have to deal with security issues, they often disable updates and do them manually. If and when they remember. And for self-hosted software it's worst because often they don't even consider running updates.

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micka190reply
lemmy.world

The bank I work at still has core systems running Lotus 🙃

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Toes♀reply
ani.social

Yeah windows 2000 assembly robots, too expensive to replace and too critical to not keep alive.

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Well those were controlling a conveyor belt system that maintenance told me they bought used in the 90s.

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lemmy.world

Those machines were controlling a conveyor belt system and weren't online. I was told the software they were running wasn't available for other OSs. They were locked in a cabinet. That entire conveyor system is now gone so those machines are probably gone too.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

From the part you quoted earlier, it's absolutely useless, and not worth reading.

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Socsareply
sh.itjust.works

I too am struggling to find the actual Linux vuln. It sounds like it steals ssh keys, so maybe just poorly configured hosts?

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You should always have a file your home folder named SSH keys and Root password. /s
That's not just poor configuration, that's complete disregard for security.

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lemmy.world

I won’t argue about the legitimacy of crypto simply because I don’t care enough but you have to be fucking stupid to run non-FOSS crypto miners and instead go with something proprietary like this and then be surprised it fucks up your shit.

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FLOSS & FOSS

To emphasize that “free software” refers to freedom and not to price, we sometimes write or say “free (libre) software,” adding the French or Spanish word that means free in the sense of freedom. In some contexts, it works to use just “libre software.”

From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.en.html

They also say:

We in the free software movement don't use either of these terms, because we don't want to be neutral on the political question. We stand for freedom, and we show it every time—by saying “free” and “libre”—or “free (libre).”

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I don’t care enough but you have to be fucking stupid to run non-FOSS crypto miners

Fixed that for you.

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