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thantik
lemmy.world

I mean let's be real here, Android merely copied what Apple was doing at the time. And before I'm lynched by a mob here, Android surpassed Apple quickly in that regard, but it's one of the few times early in the development of the Android ecosystem that they were just following the leader here.

The App Store came before the Play Store, and Google didn't really set itself apart in that arena until many years later when they actually redesigned the store.

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d3Xt3rreply
lemmy.nz

... which in itself wasn't anything revolutionary either. The concept of an app store goes all the way back to the early 90s, and even in the smartphone era, there were several app stores on the scene for other mobile platforms before the iPhone was even a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_store#History

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danielfgomreply
lemmy.world

Exactly. I was using online app Stores in 2006 and 2007 to buy, download and install apps on my Windows Mobile phones.

Password managers, device themes, various other apps - you name it, they were all available.

People act like the App Store was some miraculous new thing apple invented, but these existed long before iPhone.

Windows Mobile also had other nice things that iPhone took years to get like copy/paste, GPS navigation, voice control, SD card support (iPhone still doesn't have it), theming etc

The only thing apple did was use a glass screen instead of plastic and made a finger friendly and good looking UI. That's it.

Yes these made the phone more appealing to the average user who only knew flip phones but for us nerds using Windows Mobile, it wasn't a massive step forward.

HTC had already been making finger friendly themes but they could be a little sluggish because the CPU market hadn't really taken off yet.

There was a Russian company that I bought many themes from for my HTC. They were really nice. I just can't remember the name anymore.

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d3Xt3rreply
lemmy.nz

There was a Russian company that I bought many themes from for my HTC. They were really nice. I just can't remember the name anymore.

Probably 4pda.ru?

But yeah, WinMo was awesome back then. I still miss some of it's features and customisability - no read-only system partition, no SafetyNet crap, physical buttons which could be remapped to anything (AE Button Plus), writing proper scripts using MortScript, modify whichever file you like without any issues. I still remember using this nice Windows XP theme on my HTC Tytn, with the slide-out QWERTY keyboard it really felt like I was using a mini PC.

It's so sad that Android has become so closed now in spite of being technically opensource.

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danielfgomreply
lemmy.world

I think it was called SBP Soft I think. But I can't find it even in the wayback machine

Yes I wish Google would let Android be open properly.

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wagonerreply
infosec.pub

I've been an exclusively android user since the original motorola Droid, but I still say you're massively understating the innovation by Apple here

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donioreply
lemmy.world

The App Store and Android Market launches were pretty damn close. The iOS app-store launched July 2008 and the first Android consumer device (G1) shipped September 2008 and it had the market from day 1.

Worth noting that iOS users had to wait a full year for the app store after the iPhone 1 launch because Jobs didn't want it at first. I had both devices fairly early on and on the iPhone side we were running "apps" on jailbroken devices months before the app store existed.

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Phen
lemmy.eco.br

Downloading and installing apps sure is easier now, but actually finding apps you may want to install? I'm not so sure.

Back then with the limit amount of apps available, it felt like almost everything was worth trying out. Now you have a million useless apps for any interesting on.

Even if you go to the "most popular" lists on the app store, there's nothing worth downloading there. Discovery is still dependant on third party websites or word of mouth.

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Mars
lemmy.ca

It's an interesting thought to consider that without access to centralized distribution platforms like app stores, something incredibly similar is created in its place: The so-called "super-app" (e.g. WeChat, Alipay).

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BradleyUffnerreply
lemmy.world

For end users, a superapp is an application that provides a set of core features while also giving access to independently developed miniapps. For app developers, a superapp is an application integrated with the capabilities of platforms and ecosystems that allows third-parties to develop and publish miniapps.

I may be getting old, but that sounds suspiciously like a "web browser"

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kadureply
lemmy.world

Web browsers allow you to access an open network of servers.

Those apps like WeChat do offer a lot of features, but they're entirely owned by the developer. You can access their microblog tool, their photo hosting, and so on.

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Paradox
lemdro.id

Kagi summary:

  • The Android Market (now Google Play Store) was launched in October 2008 with the T-Mobile G1 phone, helping establish app ecosystems on mobile.
  • Before app stores, finding and downloading apps was difficult through various online stores and carrier stores with limited selection and updates.
  • The Android Market centralized the app experience and discovery, giving access to a growing variety and number of apps in one place.
  • Early app successes helped drive more users, phones, developers and apps in a reinforcing cycle that grew the app economy exponentially.
  • Popular early apps filled gaps in Android's capabilities in areas like weather, file management, flashlights as built-in features were still being developed.
  • Later apps brought extra abilities beyond necessities, like music streaming, ebooks, games, social media and more.
  • The article reminisces on the novelty of app stores and ecosystems in their early days compared to their ubiquitous presence today.
  • Over 100,000 apps were available by mid-2010 and over 3.5 million apps today on Google Play.
  • We now take app discovery, updates, and the overall app experience for granted due to how well app stores do their job.
  • The article credits the Android Market and Apple App Store for establishing apps as the norm and changing our expectations of mobile.
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