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Omgarmreply
lemmy.world

0- Atk Pidgey Peck vs. Lvl 20 0 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 72-85 (97.2 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

With neutral natures and no EVs it is a OHKO however.

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JPAKx4
lemmy.sdf.org

I've been playing Cobblemon, and they don't sugar coat it. If you kill a wild Pokemon they often drop some kind of meat

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Not just that, but there are great feint/death animations when you win a battle!

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lemmy.ca

Poor killing move choice... a hydro pump would do more or a adamant waterfall would do even more!

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OttoVonNoobreply
lemmy.ca

stab existed Gen 1?

Hyper beam base gen 1 150 power Hydro pump bade gen 1 120 power stab X 1.5 180 power

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MysticalSpoonreply
kbin.social

However, in gen1 water moves were special. Gyarados has atk of 125 and special of 100 in gen1. This means that hyper beam would do slightly more damage(~1%) than hydro pump.

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MysticalSpoonreply
kbin.social

I see, Pokemon showdown is assuming that you get the get the stat increases from battling to 100. My calculation is without these stat increases. Like leveling with rare candy. Those 64 points make the difference.

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In gen 2 they split special into satk and sdef. Gyarados has 60 satk and 125 atk. Hyper beam being a normal move uses atk in gens 1-3. Hydro pump just gets worse. I doubt the way they changed stat calculations makes up for 65 attack power. Looking at this in Pokemon showdown I think there is something going on with these damage calcs. My guess is damage has a cap somewhere and these moves are hitting it before weakness/resistance multipliers are applied.

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