YSK: If you make popcorn in a pot on the stove, the oil to use is ghee.
Why YSK: Popcorn fans often want a buttery flavor, but plain butter is a bad choice for popping popcorn in a pot, because the proteins and sugars smoke and burn around the same temperature where it's hot enough to pop the kernels.
Ghee, or Indian-style clarified butter, is butter that's been simmered and the milk solids (proteins and sugars) skimmed off. This leaves a clear yellow oil that doesn't smoke when it's heated and doesn't go rancid quickly, but has a distinct toasty butter flavor.
Vegetable oil is either flavorless or faintly bitter, and some high-temperature vegetable oils tend to start polymerizing (i.e. becoming plastic) when heated in small amounts. This is also not good for popcorn.
Good-quality popcorn popped in ghee reliably produces lots of "butterfly" popcorn with few unpopped "duds" and no scorched kernels or batches ruined by smoke.
Try it! I'm sure not going back to canola oil.
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That is a great idea! Coconut oil was ok,but kinda odd-flavored for popcorn ...
Since ghee is so expensive, I usually do coconut oil and ghee mixed!
I love ghee on my stovetop popcorn! A wok works great!
Dude, my mom makes ghee out of milk. It costs literally nothing
That's not true because you still have to buy the milk.
Not if you're a mom 😉
Tiddy butter popcorn is a sentence crafted by war criminals to torture the goodness from the world.
What a sentence
Bruh
to make ghee at home costs lots of milk, time, and effort. Try making ghee yourself from cratch and you'll know exactly how much it really costs.
Go to youtube and watch how to make ghee. It's quite simple. I use butter to make mine. I won't buy expensive storebought again because it's so cheap and simple to make.
If you have access to Costco, they sell huge tubs of ghee for a way, way better value than the tiny containers you'd find at the grocery store. Ghee has a pretty good shelf life, however I divide my Costco tub up into smaller containers and freeze what I don't plan on using within a few months, to extend the shelf life further.
Sorry for the hijack, but the post I see above this comment is some baseball scores. Twins @ Braves. Using Lemmy.world in a web browser. What's going on?
This is the URL: https://lemmy.world/post/661229?scrollToComments=true
It's another websocket related bug that's already been fixed! lemmy.world is currently out of date, however. If you want to get rid of it, either wait for Ruud to push the update, or switch instances.
It's a bot. I kept getting it too and there are identical ones for other teams.
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I had like three bot baseball communities that I blocked.
Avocado oil is great for popcorn. It doesn't add any flavor but I love the resulting texture: very crisp and clean. I like using red or blue corn because the contrast is visually appealing. You want long, skinny kernels to get the butterfly popcorn. Personally I'm crazy for cheesy popcorn, and the secret there is to find cheese powder with some savory herbs like oregano. I also love to do it with Kashmiri (floral hot Indian chili) powder.
Important edit: Do NOT under any circumstance use chili popcorn to spice up Netflix & Chill. This is a snack for lonely degenerates who don't even masturbate daily any more. It's for watching war documentaries and French New Wave, not pervy cartoons and superhero throwdowns with plot designed to be ignored while you finger your frenemies. You won't look worldly and sophisticated while you're driving somebody to the fucking hospital. Be responsible.
Burlap and barrel has a black lime and a black urfa chili that are just fantastic on popcorn.
Asking your would-be date if they want to Burlap & Barrel just doesn’t quite have the same ring to it…
Someone's speaking from experience..
You can also get brewers yeast
Ghee sounds awesome for popcorn! I use refined coconut oil and Flavacol at the moment.
You must use refined coconut oil. As long as it is refined, there is no coconut flavor. It basically just tastes like theatre popcorn, because that's what they use. They just use a fancier version that has beta-carotene in it, for a nice yellow coloring.
So, that's why it's so expensive!
Man, I could definitely go for regular coconut flavor on popcorn though! Toss in some dehydrated pineapple bits...
Oh that sounds great. If you want to get real fancy, toss in some coconut shreds and toasted walnut pieces. Dang I know what I'm doing for my next movie night. My popcorn popper hasn't been used in a few months.
I really like unrefined coconut oil for popcorn. It’s not a super strong coconut flavour at all, but it adds a nice subtle complexity to the popcorn. Definitely worth trying if it’s what you have on hand anyway :). I prefer it, even!
Olive oil here. The market nearby doesn't sell canola oil because it was never popular. MSG is also great on popcorn.
Nutritional yeast is also amazing. Gives it a cheesy flavor, and it's healthy to boot!
Nutritional yeast, chicken salt, and ghee for the oil is my go to. Absolutely delicious.
I second that comment.
It's been about two decades since I've gone there, but the Landmark Cinemas in the San Diego area had nutritional yeast for your popcorn, right there in the station where you pump your own butter and grab napkins. Curious, I gave it a try...
For the past twenty years (give or take), a can of Bragg's Nutritional Yeast has been an ever-present staple in the kitchen, which I use to season popcorn, as well as slightly charred tortillas with either butter or avocado.
Olive oil has a very distinct olive flavour and is generally not advised to heat up to much, since it gets carcinogenic
Also, as far as i know, you can buy the same seasoning they put on the popcorn at the theaters. Its called flavacol.
Also, beware of bagged popcorn a lot of the bags contain PFAS, which is supposedly bad for you.
As I mentioned in a comment above, I have one of those theater poppers. But in those, the flavacol goes into the hopper right along with the kernels and your oil of choice. It's not an oil substitute. It's good stuff, but hard to find in less than 5-pound boxes.
…holy shit you’re a genius.
**gheenius
Ugh. That was so bad. I love that for you.
We use non-virgin olive oil. High smoke point, but good flavor.
Oil and artificial flavors. I've tried a lot of them and none of them have a "real" butter flavor. It's more of a greasy feel than taste.
soybean oil, usually. and diacetyl can be added as a buttery flavoring.
fun fact: diacetyl inhaled in large enough doses can cause bronchitis. this was a problem in popcorn topping factories, hence the term "popcorn lung"
I've always just used avocado oil. Sometimes coconut oil but that obviously leaves a faint hint of coconut that not everyone likes. I'll try ghee next time but I never heard of anyone trying to make pop corn with just butter in the pan. That sounds like a mistake folks only make once! lol
The makers of my commercial-grade popper recommend coconut oil. Like you, I am interested in trying ghee. It's good to just have a bottle of that stuff handy for lots of things.
I think ghee is clarified butter.
They are pretty much the same thing. Clarified butter can be skimmed as soon as the milk solids begin to separate. Ghee is cooked until the solids become browned and settle to the bottom, giving it more of a nutty flavor.
Never tried Ghee. I usually use canola, coconut, or bacon grease. I'm up for more buttery flavor though. Thanks!
Bacon grease sounds incredible. How much of the flavor ends up in the popcorn?
It's subtle, but I only use just enough to pop the kernels. I also have a jar of it by the stove most of the time.
Sounds a bit like that bacon popcorn...
That’s great and all, but if any discussion about popcorn on the stove doesn’t involve Flavicol, it’s simply incomplete.
For any dairy intolerant or vegan people here you can get a similar effect by clarifying a vegetable spread like Flora and adding salt until it tastes ‘buttery’ enough for you
Exactly. And don't use the vegan butter to pop the corn, just use some neutral vegetable oil like rapeseed oil there. After the corns have popped, just melt the vegan butter in a pan and drip it over your popcorn.
I tried ghee, it tasted awful. Butter flavored coconut oil is where it's at.
Peanut Oil is the answer. High smoke point, taste negligible.
Should note that refined peanut oil will not cause allergic reactions in the majority of peanut allergy sufferers (although it really isn’t worth risking).
I add butter back into the pot after popping to melt (add flavours), then pour on popcorn.
I use bacon grease.
Hello.
Could you please add a "Why YSK:" to your post? It's rule #2. :)
Fixed.
After reading this post a few days back, I was inspired to get some Ghee and try it out. Absolutely delicious, thank you @[email protected]!
Interesting, I'll try that out.
Ghee is not an oil. Other than that I agree.
You mean you aghee? I'll show myself out.
@fubo
I agree. Ghee is very nice for popcorn. And for everyone who isn't into milk products, vegetable ghee has the same qualities and flavor profile.
what is vegetable ghee?
@xuxebiko https://roshnisanghvi.com/blogs/nutrition-tips/top-3-vegan-butter-or-ghee-alternatives
Next time use a search engine of your choice
@fubo
None of them are ghee. They're all interesterified vegetable fat/ oils with ghee flavour added calling themselves "vegan ghee" to con the gulllible.
There's no harm in being vegan, but it is foolish to fall for unhealthy products because they brand themelves as vegan/ vegetable-based.
Stick to vegetable oils but ffs don't call them ghee.
Interesterified oils increase heart-disease risk by lowering HDL (good) cholesterol and raising LDL (bad) cholesterol, (like trans fats do). And they increase the risk of type 2 diabetes by raising fasting blood-glucose levels and decreasing insulin response. They also increase liver cellular stress markers.
Look up the effects of interesterified vegetable fat/ oils on a search engine of your choice and then read their labels before recommending them.
@xuxebiko
I'm no expert in these matters. But I can't imagine ghee (clarified butter) being very healthy either in large quantities. If you are vegan (which I'm not) this a way to taste the op's popcorn suggestion. I get the feeling you already had an opinion on the whole ghee/fake vegan ghee thing. And al I can say is, in the Indian cuisine, with a relatively large vegan population, fake ghee is a thing. Not some hipster hype.
This was about taste and cooking. Not about health.
@fubo
India does not have a 'large vegan populatiion', it has a large 'vegetarian' population with milk, yoghurt (we call it curd/ dahi), paneer (cottage cheese), and ghee a part of the daily diet. Vegetable fat/ oils used in cooking instead of ghee are usually either raw or filtered or refined. Interestified vegetable oil/ fat is a relatively new product and is used by FMCG co.s as a replacement for palm oil in their products. Interestified vegetable oil also tastes nothing like ghee. Don't take my word for it, try it out yourself.
Any Indian touting vegan ghee will get laughed out of their home and get told to use the real thing.
Coconut oil
I'll give this a try. At my theater we use peanut oil because we are a small single screener and don't need to pinch every penny and use flavicol or something else less natural. It tastes good to me though I am peanut intolerant (not a major allergy but it upsets my digestive system, which upsets those around me).
At home, corn oil is my go-to as I am just cooking corn in corn and then melt some butter and salt the butter and toss the popcorn with it to get it evenly coated.
One other trick we do at the theater and you might be able get your place to do is when they add 'butter flavoring' is to ask them to half full the bag, pump some on, shake up the bag, add the rest of the popcorn and add more flavoring. It makes the bottom levels of popcorn more consistent with flavor.
Yeah, but fake butter flavor is unpleasant to me.
Oh, that’s brilliant! We got a whirly-pop last Christmas and have just been using generic vegetable oil but it definitely doesn’t improve the taste any. Looking forward to trying this.
And if youre a terrible cook (like me), throwing the kernals in a paper lunch bag & throwing it in the microwave for 3 minutes makes perfect popcorn (and does so without covering your kitchen in oil splatter/ annoying your neighbors with smoke detectors going off.)
Lol sorry. Thanks for the ghee suggestion! It sounds awesome & im excited to try it!
I'm sorry, what now??
Sounds like a roll-your-own microwave popcorn bag. Intriguing.
Is this a protip to make popcorn more enjoyable when Reddit goes to shit on the 1st of July? 😅So store bought ready to pop microwaveable "buttered" popcorn is not with ghee, right?
No, it's not made with ghee. Microwave popcorn "butter" is typically artificially flavored oil.
yall are burning your butter?
I prefer to airpop it in the microwave and then spritz EVOO (extra virgin olive oil) on afterwards. EVOO is delicious, and unrefined oils like EVOO retain more flavor if you don't heat them.
"Ghee!"
"No, Ghee-T-E."
(that's not how it's pronounced.)
(Silence!)
Opinions on using olive oil for popcorn?
I know the smoke point isn't the highest, but it tastes good!
wait how can it be indian butter I thought they don't exploit cows there
No, most Indians aren't vegan, just vegetarian. They just don't kill cows (and this isn't universal, some areas don't care).
But I thought Indians were a monolith
They just don't eat beef (except some locations), but they use a lot of dairy products.
They just leave them to suffer of malnutrition and disease in the streets. Good thing they don’t exploit them!
YSK: Cows are raped & slaughtered for butter
YSK: I did not ask
explain
In order for a cow to produce milk it must be pregnant or recently pregnant, then once it gets older and starts producing less milk it will be slaughtered.
~~the more you know!~~
is - in your opinion - artificial insemination equal to rape?
no.
then something here doesnt make sense
Maybe it’s the lack of consent?
maybe. maybe the topic is more complex than that.
Are cows raped for butter? always? is it the same degree of awfulness if a cow gets 'raped' in a industrial plant or if a cow gets mounted by a bull in a field? is 'rape' even a term that can be used to describe actions that are done to or by animals? Or should it be used for humans only? is it disrespectful to human victims of rape to use the same words to describe something that happened to an animal? Are cows slaughtered for butter? every cow that produced milk that was used to make butter? How many people could the death of a cow benefit before it becomes a morally correct thing to do? What is a cows life worth? Would stopping to breed cows and thus a collapsing overall world-population of cows be something good or something bad? Or is it in between somewhere? Who defines even what is morally correct and what isnt?
Im not trying to be an asshole or anything (i know it seems like it here), but I dont think writing
with a slightly condescending undertone on a messageboard thread about popcorn is the smartest way to go about this
I've had a lot of livestock, but I've never raised cattle before. Do cows give affirmative consent to bulls out in the field? Or in the wild? I know hens sure as fuck don't, does (goats) don't in any meaningful way, and mares... well, mares can be iffy about it, and it's not always clear-cut. And then, of course, the tomcats straight up rape all day and all night, so it's almost cheating to include them.
How different are cows in that regard?
also male calves are slaughtered
Female cows are forcefully impregnated so they produce milk, their children are taken away as soon as they're born, if the calf is boy he will be killed for veal, if it's a girl she will go through the same thing her mother did and then she's killed when she can no longer spit out children and milk.
butter is made from raped & dead cows?
Cows can be raped?
Do we send cow rapists to cow jail? If a cow is in a field with a bull, do we arrest the bull pre- or post- mount?
Come the fuck on buddy, obviously they are talking about humans forcefully impregnating cows to force them to produce milk.
Humans have the capability to understand the consequences of our actions, other animals don't.
By the way you're talking here I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about. Have you ever seen a cow be inseminated? Nothing about it is forceful. They don't give a flying fuck. They stand there and eat while a guy artificially inseminates them and they don't react at all. They do not care.
So, cows aren’t actually being raped? I’m so confused.
why are you minimizing rape & sexual assault?
Being against sexual assault of cows minimizes it how?
By equating artificial insemination in cattle to rape.
You're just using shock tactics to garner attention. Do you even care about how your minimization affects rape & sex assualt survivors?
Sexually assaulting cows is bad just as sexually assaulting people is bad, no minimizing.
cows are human?
Even on the fediverse people absolutely refuse to hear about the animal abuse they support everyday..
Come the fuck on people, stop being reactionary and think about it for a minute.
plants scream when cut.
source : https://www.sciencealert.com/plants-really-do-scream-out-loud-we-just-never-heard-it-until-now
Please commence arguments about plant abuse.
The point is to be conscious about the shit you're eating and where it comes from, not to demonize butter or animal products on the whole. Factory farming is a horrid practice that I don't support but I've worked with local livestock outfits for 15 years and see the care they put into production. Not every pound of butter is wrought on a life of pure suffering, and to reject the fundamental role of death in life's process is just a bizarre and sterile approach to living.