My serial killer trait is that I use vi instead of vim cause I'm too lazy to type the extra character. Tho if for some reason, vi tab completed to vim, I'd probably use vim
I'd need to run vi at least 5 times to have a net gain in saving keystrokes. I'm typically in effemerial systems created by the users of our env, so rarely am I going to gain those strokes back
But also, why am I trying to apply logic to this? I'll often cat a file before editing it. This shit is just illogical idiosyncrasies I've picked up over the years. I'm probably creating posthoc justifications for insane things I do cause it's hard to override muscle memory
There are different levels of effemeriality. The simplest example I use daily would be an autoscaling group in AWS. Especially if you use Spot Instances to save money, thi gs may scale in and out whenever.
So if a development team creates a new autoscaling group and I need to get into an instance to test something, unless I add stuff to their IaC, I'm stuck with their configuration. I need to assume that every time I ssh into one of those instances, it's a brand new instance. But it'd be a big challenge for me to go to their repo and make a PR to alias a command whenever an instance in that resource is created
Stuff can be even more temporary if it's something like an ECS task which creates a container with a read only filesystem only when a task is needed to be done. But I don't want to get too deep in the weeds (or deeper than I already have)
terraform workspace will at least stick around for a while so you might be in and out of the same system multiple times.
I'm in DevOps so I'm in a lot of effemerial systems so in practice, I will run into systems where profile hasn't been set up. Tho I do like the idea of making sure all systems properly have that aliased cause it'd be serial killer vibes to spend hours of time to make sure that I can save a keystroke.
Tho it'd never make it through PR. Also, wild require explaining to my coworkers that I do this
I'll have to check tomarrow if RHEL and UBI do this.
Did some quick googling and looks like cent has that alias by default but doesn't do it when root. Which would explain why I do get inconsistent results with vi. I never thought about it in detail besides just knowing that there are some visual changes. Thanks for the info, I'll be noticing this now that I know!
You are missing out! I used to only use vim to edit config files. So I knew my way around (albeit, slowly). I installed the IdeaVim plugin a week ago and learned some new key bindings I wasn't using. A week in I'm almost faster than before! And it's only going to get better after I've acquired muscle memory (I'm nearly there.) and move on to complex key bindings/sequences. Then it will probably be as if the cursor is directly connected to my mind. I'm hopeful because I've seen a mentor of mine do it.
I don't think you understood what I said. I started using vim key bindings ALSO in my IDE and my speed improved because of it. I didn't ask you to stop using vi. I merely suggested that you used MORE of it. If your Emacs setup already use vim keybindings that's exactly what I'm doing too.
You guys recommend VSCodium over VSCode. Is there a working sync solution similar to the one built into VSCode where you can sync all settings and extensions between machines?
Yes! It's this one https://open-vsx.org/extension/zokugun/sync-settings I really like it for using a normal repository over a "gist" and so you can also use any git server provider, I think the developer is also a contributor of VSCodium itself
I guess I just preferred VSCode for coding? Every time I've tried to use Emacs for my coding workflows I've given up, I think I'm just used to VSCode in that respect. It is weird, I know.
sigma vim user
Omega neovim user
gigachad ed user
Ed is king. Every single time I have to work on a severely resource constrained system I always use Ed.
That's literally never happened to me but that won't stop me from saying it.
I mean, I don't know how severly resource constrained a system has to be to not even be able to run vi.
You haven't seen my grandma's pc
No, but I have seen my grandma's pc
I once used Linux on an actual honest-to-God teletype.
Granted, it was set up as a novelty and the thing it was hooked up to was a Pi 4, but still.
enlightened echo user
Except I'm too dumb to use even the neovim plugin manager let alone configure the thing. I have to copy existing configs like a noob :(
Isn't copying from others how everyone does (neo)vim? Besides, I'm even "worse" and just use lazyvim.
My serial killer trait is that I use vi instead of vim cause I'm too lazy to type the extra character. Tho if for some reason, vi tab completed to vim, I'd probably use vim
alias v=vim. There, just saved you two keystrokes.
{
vi} = 2 {vim} = 3 {v=vim} = 5I'd need to run vi at least 5 times to have a net gain in saving keystrokes. I'm typically in effemerial systems created by the users of our env, so rarely am I going to gain those strokes back
But also, why am I trying to apply logic to this? I'll often cat a file before editing it. This shit is just illogical idiosyncrasies I've picked up over the years. I'm probably creating posthoc justifications for insane things I do cause it's hard to override muscle memory
effemerial is new to me
Here's a link I found that might be good if you are interested in more:
https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/ephemeral-idempotent-and-immutable-infrastructure/
https://guymorton.medium.com/persistent-and-ephemeral-infrastructure-as-code-in-aws-42b33939dcf1
There are different levels of effemeriality. The simplest example I use daily would be an autoscaling group in AWS. Especially if you use Spot Instances to save money, thi gs may scale in and out whenever.
So if a development team creates a new autoscaling group and I need to get into an instance to test something, unless I add stuff to their IaC, I'm stuck with their configuration. I need to assume that every time I ssh into one of those instances, it's a brand new instance. But it'd be a big challenge for me to go to their repo and make a PR to alias a command whenever an instance in that resource is created
Stuff can be even more temporary if it's something like an ECS task which creates a container with a read only filesystem only when a task is needed to be done. But I don't want to get too deep in the weeds (or deeper than I already have)
terraform workspace will at least stick around for a while so you might be in and out of the same system multiple times.
He's commenting on your misspelling. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ephemeral
Shit... I'm an idiot
Nah it's fine
I use nano.
Nano >> vi/vim, emacs
4 letters < 2 letters.
vi forever.
Simplicity > Complexity
Not if you need any work done.
That's when you switch to a IDE.
Neovim and emacs are IDEs.
Yes, if you can remember the shortcuts...
M-x IDENano is the best when you just need an editor, you can as well use an IDE instead of vi(m) or Emacs.
Ok but why use nano when micro literally exists
Alias?
Aliases are just bloat! You can do just fine without them. Heck, why not remove the ASCII conversion and read everything in hex or binary?
It's all about SPEED and efficiency here!
I'm in DevOps so I'm in a lot of effemerial systems so in practice, I will run into systems where profile hasn't been set up. Tho I do like the idea of making sure all systems properly have that aliased cause it'd be serial killer vibes to spend hours of time to make sure that I can save a keystroke.
Tho it'd never make it through PR. Also, wild require explaining to my coworkers that I do this
Most all distros alias
vitovimalready, so it makes no difference.You use vi because you are lazy.
I used vi because I am too stupid to close it.
We are not the same.
I'll have to check tomarrow if RHEL and UBI do this.
Did some quick googling and looks like cent has that alias by default but doesn't do it when root. Which would explain why I do get inconsistent results with vi. I never thought about it in detail besides just knowing that there are some visual changes. Thanks for the info, I'll be noticing this now that I know!
I do most of my programming in vscode but when I need a cli editor, I use vi
You are missing out! I used to only use vim to edit config files. So I knew my way around (albeit, slowly). I installed the IdeaVim plugin a week ago and learned some new key bindings I wasn't using. A week in I'm almost faster than before! And it's only going to get better after I've acquired muscle memory (I'm nearly there.) and move on to complex key bindings/sequences. Then it will probably be as if the cursor is directly connected to my mind. I'm hopeful because I've seen a mentor of mine do it.
I don't think you understood what I said. I started using vim key bindings ALSO in my IDE and my speed improved because of it. I didn't ask you to stop using vi. I merely suggested that you used MORE of it. If your Emacs setup already use vim keybindings that's exactly what I'm doing too.
Awesome! How did you get them in the shell and browser? Now I am also curious.
Meanwhile webstorm/intelliJ users:
signature look of superiority
empty wallet
Nope 😉
https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support
https://www.jetbrains.com/community/dev-recognition/
Plus their Java and Python IDEs have free community versions as well.
Emacs sucks. Vim is so much better. And vscode is okay.
Go ahead. Down vote me. I don't care. This isn't Reddit lol.
Vim sucks, Emacs is the best editor in the world
Nuh uh!!!! Vim is better! So much better!!!! Emacs sucks balls!
I use vscode with vim key bindings. It's amazing!
You haven't switched to cursor yet?
I use both emacs and vim, each have their own use cases
Genuinely curious what you think the difference is
stock emacs sucks, doom emacs ftw
Vim is a pain to configure
VS code is pretty amazing though
You guys recommend VSCodium over VSCode. Is there a working sync solution similar to the one built into VSCode where you can sync all settings and extensions between machines?
Yes! It's this one https://open-vsx.org/extension/zokugun/sync-settings I really like it for using a normal repository over a "gist" and so you can also use any git server provider, I think the developer is also a contributor of VSCodium itself
I generally code in VSCode, and manage org-roam notes and information in Emacs. Works well enough for me.
I guess I just preferred VSCode for coding? Every time I've tried to use Emacs for my coding workflows I've given up, I think I'm just used to VSCode in that respect. It is weird, I know.
What's a plugin? What's VSCode?
DBase IV does not need any of this.