George Lucas: "America is the empire and the rebels are the Vietcong. Anakin is George Bush. The leader of the evil corporation is named after Newt Gingrich. The evil corporation invades a small democracy for plasma (space oil)"
Chuds: "I sleep"
TLJ: "woman"
Chuds: foaming "YOU MADE IT POLITICAL YOU DAMN LIBERALS!"
The man tries to be on the side of the angels, god bless 'im, but while it's clear politics were one more source to draw from in world building, he was not making any particularly coherent political argument, even in the PT; it all just more or less jibes with the worldview of a left-leaning Californian boomer.
A lot of war movies don't really show the personal or political motivations for both sides. Some sure do. But a lot of them are almost more of man VS god or man VS nature in their plots.
In A New Hope, we watch a young man get radicalized. Han grapples with reasons to fight the whole trilogy. Etc
On Indy, absolutely and I think that's the crux of the thing, it's a matter of what criteria you use to define as making something political. I don't think Indiana Jones was trying to say anything politically so much as "hey, these are some good bad guys!" Same with Star Wars. Now, if that's enough for you to count something as political, that's certainly an opinion to which you are entitled. For me, for something to be political it has to be more involved than just "that dictator/party/X is bad!" (E.g., I'd say Lucas tried to make an overtly political series with the prequels.)
George Lucas: "America is the empire and the rebels are the Vietcong. Anakin is George Bush. The leader of the evil corporation is named after Newt Gingrich. The evil corporation invades a small democracy for plasma (space oil)"
Chuds: "I sleep"
TLJ: "woman"
Chuds: foaming "YOU MADE IT POLITICAL YOU DAMN LIBERALS!"
Also George Lucas: “Alright, so the Empire is literally the Nazi regime.”
Also George Lucas, Nationalizing private enterprise is bad, m'kay?
The man tries to be on the side of the angels, god bless 'im, but while it's clear politics were one more source to draw from in world building, he was not making any particularly coherent political argument, even in the PT; it all just more or less jibes with the worldview of a left-leaning Californian boomer.
Lucas is a less a political philosopher, and more into remixing. The imagery and the themed work.
Man was not subtle
some people are mad just because rey is a woman, some people are mad because rey is a badly written character. sexism vs common sense.
War, by its very nature is political. Probably war could be defined as “violent political disagreement”.
"War is the continuation of politics by other means." - Carl Von Clausewitz
First time I can say I read the book in a random political discussion
Aggressive negotiations
A lot of war movies don't really show the personal or political motivations for both sides. Some sure do. But a lot of them are almost more of man VS god or man VS nature in their plots.
In A New Hope, we watch a young man get radicalized. Han grapples with reasons to fight the whole trilogy. Etc
Andor was so freaking good. It spoke straight to the soul of what Star Wars started out as. Lucas even said he modeled the rebels on the Viet Cong.
It took me so long to get through the first episode. I'm glad I powered through.
No, star wars is about swish swish and pew pew!
Only a Sith deals in absolutes
I mean, in the same way Indiana Jones or Lord of the Rings is political, sure!
Indy: [openly hates and fights literal members of a political party]
Lord of the Rings I would peg as more philosophical than political.
What about the subplot about industrialization destroying the environment
On Indy, absolutely and I think that's the crux of the thing, it's a matter of what criteria you use to define as making something political. I don't think Indiana Jones was trying to say anything politically so much as "hey, these are some good bad guys!" Same with Star Wars. Now, if that's enough for you to count something as political, that's certainly an opinion to which you are entitled. For me, for something to be political it has to be more involved than just "that dictator/party/X is bad!" (E.g., I'd say Lucas tried to make an overtly political series with the prequels.)
But to each their own!