Arrest made after fire at Hitler's Eagle's Nest retreat
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Americans will understand this in 80 years when Mar a Lago burns down.
I don't believe Americans will turn Mar-A-Lago into a reminder of the horrors of fascism
No need to turn it into anything, its gaudy enough already to inspire horror.
It might actually be underwater in 80 years.
It's on a mountaintop, 1800m above sea level. Worst case sea level rise is 2m by 2100.
I think op was talking about maralago. There are no mountains in Florida.
Correct. I should have specified.
No, it's was pretty apparent which one you meant
Literally the flattest state.
Just Mountain Dew
Oh yeah that makes more sense
Why wait 80 years? Never put off for tomorrow what you can do today.
I hope no one is hurt putting out the fire.
I hope no one was hurt starting the fire.
I hope no one is
hurtputting out the fire.Are you a Nazi or just ignorant?
From the article:
It's a monument against Nazis, and you want it burned down
It's like celebrating Auschwitz being burned down. Only Nazis and people ignorant of its current use would celebrate
Instead of throwing insults, know what you are talking about first. It’s a propaganda building.
Built by the Nazis.
Used by the Hitler to present himself as animal friend and lover of nature. And by other Nazis for representative and diplomatic events. About today’s use of this building: Wikipedia article
I don’t think it’s fitting to use it as “cautionary reminder”. It’s also quite absurd to compare it to Auschwitz.
It's a restaurant. Based in a vacation home for a monster. What exactly is the cautionary messaging here?
Anybody feel like going and grabbing an archive link?
They usually pick an archive site that serves malware. Nowt wrong with the BBC link though.
Well, you can't read it without subscription, so there's one thing wrong.
oh really? I wish they'd do that in Britain too. Instead they're talking about forcing everyone to pay for the BBC if they watch Netflix or Youtube.
maybe you can't
TWO HUNDRED fucking personnel deployed to save the hitler dacha?
Two hundred people deployed to save an historical building that had an exhibition about the crimes committed there. Every opportunity to remember all the faces of evil is important. I don't understand why people celebrate history going up in flames.
As long as you're careful to distinguish actual historical monuments (e.g. this) from propagandistic fake ones built long after-the-fact (e.g. Confederate statues built in the 1950s).
Of course. But I would still see value of preserving those in the right context - for example, a Rewriting History Museum instead of a public square.
I don't explicitly think it should be burned down, but I do know of specific examples of modern day Nazis who still venerate it and just don't have the equipment to process that it's intended to be cautionary and not a shrine to hitler.
Fascists watch Starship Troopers and come away impressed by the cool soldiers shooting bugs. those people are not going to be shamed by a scoldy exhibition with pictures of concentration camp dead. They want more of that!
There's such a thing as 'Erinnerungskultur' in Germany, in which it's considered important to remember the history so we don't repeat it.
Otherwise this place has been basically a restaurant for years that doesn't really capitalize on the historical aspect iirc.
Real talk, you don't casually pop out for dinner to hitlers remote mountain bunker that has been converted to a restaurant. That is a very specific, politically filtered clientele.
maybe something else nearby could catch fire
That's a valid point.
Only if you have the misfortune to be in US/CAN.
I'm in US and can read it just fine.
Diagnosis: Skill Issue.