This is so stupid. We already know that these "rises" are a direct result of people no longer actively avoiding the hospital, because they're worried about the fact that they just smoked a joint. All this is, is an elimination of a restrictive factor...not the introduction of a new one.
Stupid is drawing conclusions from data without any evidence. You claim to have knowledge that doesn't exist in form of a quantified measure as to elimate the correlation. It could just as easily be claimed, that the legalisation occured during an increase of combined cannabis and energy drink consumption, and that the resulting heart issues are causally related to the energy drink consumption. This is why we have scientific studies, as they are meticulous data gathering and analysis exercises. A single study is meaningless, only meta-analysis of multiple studies and replication of findings leads to actionable conclusions.
Ummm, right. The study mentioned in this article explicitly states "no cause and effect conclusions should be drawn" from this data. In fact, all the studies showing correlations between marijuana use and adverse health effects say that, because if you read them all the way through, they all cite the "willingness to seek treatment" due to legalization, as a huge factor in the increased rates of reported incidents.
Actually, the articles written about these studies are the only source for that conclusion. The studies themselves only point to an increase in hospital visits, or reported incidents. There is nothing in any of them that actually makes a causal connection with marijuana itself.
The estimated change in admission rates for each year of legal cannabis sales was statistically significant for atrial fibrillation (just over 2% higher), heart failure (nearly 4% higher), and heart attack (just over 3% higher), after adjusting for potentially influential factors.
This is an observational study, and as such, can’t establish cause and effect, and the researchers acknowledge various limitations to their findings. These include the inability to separate out individual states or look at the method of cannabis use (smoked or not). Nor were they able to account for trends in illegal use.
Yes - and if the study can not establish neither cause nor effect - isn't the whole study a shot in the dark? The whole title wants you to draw the association that cannabis use is proportional to an increase in cardio vascular issues?
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This is so stupid. We already know that these "rises" are a direct result of people no longer actively avoiding the hospital, because they're worried about the fact that they just smoked a joint. All this is, is an elimination of a restrictive factor...not the introduction of a new one.
Stupid is drawing conclusions from data without any evidence. You claim to have knowledge that doesn't exist in form of a quantified measure as to elimate the correlation. It could just as easily be claimed, that the legalisation occured during an increase of combined cannabis and energy drink consumption, and that the resulting heart issues are causally related to the energy drink consumption. This is why we have scientific studies, as they are meticulous data gathering and analysis exercises. A single study is meaningless, only meta-analysis of multiple studies and replication of findings leads to actionable conclusions.
Ummm, right. The study mentioned in this article explicitly states "no cause and effect conclusions should be drawn" from this data. In fact, all the studies showing correlations between marijuana use and adverse health effects say that, because if you read them all the way through, they all cite the "willingness to seek treatment" due to legalization, as a huge factor in the increased rates of reported incidents.
Hmmm. So it's the energy drinks. I knew it
The data suggests that use does, in fact, increase cardiac issues.
From the article.
The correlation is observational. The use of cannabis is documented as having a negative effect on the heart.
Actually, the articles written about these studies are the only source for that conclusion. The studies themselves only point to an increase in hospital visits, or reported incidents. There is nothing in any of them that actually makes a causal connection with marijuana itself.
And I suggest the cause is not pinned down to cannabis as the only mitigating factor. I'm skeptical of the conclusion.
Yes - and if the study can not establish neither cause nor effect - isn't the whole study a shot in the dark? The whole title wants you to draw the association that cannabis use is proportional to an increase in cardio vascular issues?
Smoking isn't good for you. Who would have thought. I need a joint