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Lindsey Graham Accused of Paying 17-Year-Old Boy and Men For Sex

Three male escorts in a new documentary have alleged that late Republican Senator Lindsey Graham paid them for sexual encounters, including one who says he was 17 at the time.

The CLOSETocracy, produced by Swamp Watch Studios and Tystnaden Films and released by the left-wing Young Turks network, features testimony from men who say Graham paid them for sexual encounters in Arizona and Washington, D.C. The allegations have not been independently corroborated.

One of the men, identified in the documentary as Kelvin, alleges he met Graham at a property in Arizona in 2001, when he was 17. He claims Graham paid him $120 for the encounter.

“My name is Kelvin. I had sex with Lindsey Graham when I was 17,” he says in the documentary.

Lindsey Graham Accused of Paying 17-Year-Old Boy and Men For Sexhttps://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-accused-of-having-sex-with-17-year-old-male-escort-12606040Open linkView original on sh.itjust.works
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Seriously, talk about too little, too late. The chance that justice would be served went from next to zero to zero.

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This was known before, Graham helped keep the stories out of the mainstream, and victims are allowed to share their stories.

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lemmy.ca

for what? his re-election? GOP voters love diddlers and rapists.

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

They're criticizing these men for not coming forward earlier.

Because it's totally ok to put the blame on victims instead of Lyndsey fucking Graham.

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reddthat.com

I'm not criticizing them for coming forward. They deserve support. I just don't see a point in the media focusing attention on this after he's dead. Their are far too many still living problems to deal with to be dividing focus towards dead ones.

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

Victims should be able to tell their story in their own time without criticism.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

I'm not criticizing the victims. I'm criticizing the media. This stuff was already known while he was alive if they wanted to dig into it.

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

Your initial comment was too vague, gonna be real with you.

There's a lot of victim blaming that happens on Lemmy. Like.....a lot.

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lemmy.world

The criticism is valid, over the last 25 years that victim could have approacged law enforcement or the media to prevent the abuser abusing again. Instead he waited until after they died to do a documentary.

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

These aren't new allegations. Victim blaming will not be tolerated here.

Lyndsey Graham had a lot of influence and pull. He absolutely worked to bury these stories.

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I'm not blamingthe victim for their abuse. I am criticising their approach to holding their abuser accountable which is absolutely appropriate. They are not infallible as result of being abused.

The fact there were rumours for years does nothing but support that people should have come forward instead of going public after he died.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Least shocking reveal in history.

Of course it comes out after he's dead (I just remembered that he's dead, which was a nice pick me up)

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It's like when I get reminded that Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Cuck are dead and I get up and dance a little jig.

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Normally I wouldn't condone attacking a dead man's legacy. But he wasn't a man, so it's open season on this shitstain.

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Well he's dead and the conservatives need to discredit the sanctions on Russia somehow

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It's good to have confirmation, even though literally everyone knew about Miss Lindsey. Though I actually didn't see the minor coming there, he always seemed the sort to prefer 20 somethings

I hope the minors and all who were victimized as a part of it can find peace and get some restitution, and that those who weren't got good payout from him (though given the payment amount in there it looks unlikely)

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lemmy.world

Too bad they couldn't come out when he was alive. I know times were more tumultuous then but, it would have been more advantageous in my politics riddled brain if they had.

I hope they heal from whatever traumatic sex acts Lindsay may have subjected them to. I always assume conservatives try to push past people's boundaries.

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Nah, some of this stuff was coming out when he was alive. Just wasn't advertised much, you had to go find the info. I think everyone that paid attention knew Lady G liked his little boys.

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lemmy.world

I only heard about ladybirds around the time he died and I haven't gotten over that trauma yet. I mourn for their souls which must have died at least a little

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I don't find any of this particularly surprising. Graham was a fascist, of the party of pedophiles for his entire life. Frankly, age gaps is what defines pedophiles, so it isn't anything special besides being statuetory rape.

There. Fixed that for the other commenter. I hope. Maybe someone will point out something they don't like, but I hope I covered it well enough. heh.

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Now at the end of the road it comes out that he paid a lot of people, from boys to men, for sex. “I’ll make love to you” he would say, before pulling out his wallet and offering cash on bended knee. In the still of the night he would get so hard and say “good buy” & “yes, today”.

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lemmy.today

Just for context, Lindsey Graham asked the escort his age and the escort said he was 18. This also occurred back before real IDs that got scanned and when people 18-21 often had fake IDs for drinking. In other words, it's not like if Graham asked for Kelvin's ID that it would have proved things.

“I just need you to tell me how old you are,” Graham allegedly said at one point, according to Kelvin’s account.

“I said, ‘OK, I am 18 years old,’ ” Kelvin recalled.

It was also still constitutional to ban gay sex and gay people couldn't get married. He was also an older gay person, not particularly good looking, and still wanted to have sex, which meant paying for escorts, which was illegal already. I don't think this really shows that Lindsey Graham was some sort of evil person. He grew up with his very existence being illegal, he still couldn't legally get married, and so existing inherently meant violating laws he had been taught one way or another. He at least tried to make sure this victim was an adult.

I'm not saying Lindsey Graham wasn't horrible. He often voted against LGBT rights. But... he made something of himself as a closeted gay person during a time in which it was nearly impossible to be out. If he had come out at some point, he would have lost his career, been a public joke among conservatives, and ultimately he chose to stay in the closet.

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Everything you just pointed out makes everything Lindsay Graham has ever done, worse. But you phrased it as if you were trying to gather sympathy. So you might want to look into that.

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

This wasn't a relationship, this was paying an underage boy for sex.

We don't need to be playing devil's advocate about Lyndsey Graham raping minors.

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sh.itjust.works

Are you really conflating homosexuality with pedophilic tendencies? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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This is common I've noticed, part of the BS "slippery slope" argument bigotry uses.

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I mean, c'mon here.

The whole "gays fuck kids" thing is so 1980s. It's been debunked as any kind of significant factor at all.

Yeah, gay men have less issues dating outside their age bracket, but that doesn't extend to banging teenagers. I'm not saying it never happens, I'm saying it doesn't come down to gay men.

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sh.itjust.works

And you double down with tangential info that doesn't prove your assertion. Buddy you're homophobic.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Oh it's not because of disagreement. It's the part where you didn't even bat an eyelid about him soliciting sex from a minor. You thought the problem was just a large age gap.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

That's even worse, especially now that this is the second time you've suggested pedophilia is not a problem.

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Frankly, age gaps in male homosexual relations isn't anything special, even underage sexual activity.

You absolutely did normalize pedophilia. This is a warning. You will be banned from the community if you continue to defend pedophilia.

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lemmy.today

News flash - he's dead. Move on...

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velmareply
sh.itjust.works

Victims should be allowed the time and space to share their stories.

Who are you to shut them up?

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Who are you to shut them up?

yet another pedophile defender

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So is Hitler. But I still like having all his evil deeds documented for historical purposes.

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Or, don't side with rapists? See how easy that was?

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