How great is the Russian threat against Germany?
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Russia is at war with Germany and Europe in general for the past decade. So far it’s mostly via IT, propaganda. They won’t need tanks when they manage to dissolve society and get traitors in office.
They successfully pushed the AfD - big threat, they are trying to divide the EU because a united EU is much stronger than Russia
How big is the thread of the second strongest army in Ukraine? Not big. The thread of Russian missinformation and propaganda on social media on the other hand is a big problem.
Germans are living in their own special little fantasy world. The comments to this post alone are truly baffling.
neither of the articles (about russia that i've read in the last few years) seems to be interested in asking even the most existential question: why would there be a conflict in the first place? why the heck does nobody even seem to care about the most fundamental of all questions? what the heck is going on there?
Appeasement never works.
Would European Union let Germany alone against Russia? Would Poland let russian army cross their territory? Would russian expect Germany and Ukrain don't unite?
I don't trust Russia would attack.
What a bizarre question. No one is suggesting Russia would start shelling Berlin. Germany is in NATO. If any of the NATO countries are under attack Germany will have to choose between sending troops to help or abandon their allies. Is Germany ready to send their troops to war?
The title of the post is about the threat of Russia toward Germany. How can you read it not as a threat of war in the actual context?
Also, as far as I know, Germany participate with both troops and money in NATO's wars. I am quite sure they would try diplomatic solutions to avoid a war on their ground, but yes, they are likely to send troops to war if NATO is attacked. Only USA have shown they are likely to betray allies.
The direct threat is sabotage, cyberattacks and long range strikes, not Russian tanks attacking across Poland.
Germany has to be prepared for that and for facing Russian troops in battle in different parts of Europe.
And what do you think of it?
I think, given that in recent military exercises Ukraine was absolutely crushing NATO members and based on what I heard from active soldiers, that European countries are vastly unprepared for modern conflict. They still didn't manage to implement any lessons from the war in Ukraine and will need years to do it. Russia knows this and is escalating their threats constantly. A lot of resources and dedicated leadership is needed if we want to prevent war spilling into EU.
I think Europe has began to accept that USA was no longer an ally. The main threat is both USA and Russia pushing for far right parties. Hopefully Europe can resist this pressure.
I would suggest you avoid reading too much Trump's propaganda, if you want to keep your mind clear.
You’re trying to analyze Russia with logic. And there’s Russian saying to that “One won’t understand Russia with mind” (or intellect).
It made zero sense to let territories occupied since 2014 to be run by banditry rather than make them propaganda projects. It made no sense to invade on full-scale rather than keep funding pro-Russian parties and eventually get another Hungary into EU. It makes absolutely no sense continuing the war. But Russia keeps doing that.
I do believe chance of Russia escalating into EU isn’t big, but it’s not a logical creature, it won’t calculate its chances.
Next to nothing compared to Elon Musk
Why even differentiate between Russia, Russia's corrupt puppets in the US (and elsewhere) and fascists supporting Russia and their puppets? It's all the same threat.
If Elon started to shill out money for AfD just like he did for orange turd before US elections - then he’ll just be the second biggest donor after Russia, because Russia been at it for more than a decade now. 🌝
if? Who says he isn't already?
Who knows what future holds. Nazi Germany was allies with Soviet Union
Po-TAY-to, Po-TAH-to
How about the Israeli threat?
This is whataboutism. This thread here talks about Russia. If you want to talk about Israel, it may be a good idea to open another thread.
You're right, I got angry and my swipe is faster than my brain.
Germany seems pretty pro-Israel
Remember, if Israel decides to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran all bets are off about what russia does with its nuclear weapons in Europe and you better believe Trump will NOT do anything to restrain russia in that eventuality.
I know. It's a fucking terrifying time to be alive.
@supersquirrel @Malica
Nuke Israel on behalf of Iran? 🤔
No one would miss Israel...
...and then russia drops a nuclear weapon on Ukraine too as a way of participating.