It shouldn’t have to take fifteen years to deploy effective products that can save lives
this is such a reductionist view.
it should absolutely take decades to make a sweeping decision to fundamentally alter an ecosystem. nobody likes disease or even getting a random bite. i grew up in the swamps of the US, i know. but we should absolutely know what we’re doing to release a genetically engineered or bacterial sterilizing agent into a naturally evolved ecosystem.
Ok. You can take decades if you have a systematic plan with data collection, time lines, expanded test beds, and reviews of emerging relevant science. But sitting on your hands for 15yrs isn't very productive.
People have been more than happy to do this with the food we eat under accelerated time lines (I'm not defending that, but it's not like there isn't precedent for genetic meddling at scale.
These techniques are targeted at individual species, not all mosquitoes, and the species in question are invasive species. If it was targeting native mosquitoes your comment would make more sense, but in this case the ecological effects should be neutral to positive.
Careful. Targeted bacteriological or viral methods can adapt once out in the open. What you ultimately cause may not be what was intended. What other creatures share traits that might be susceptible? Let's not pretend we've genomapped and understood everything out there.
Also mosquitos and their larvae are food for parts of the food web. If they are gone, what starves?
Unintended consequences are a real risk. Careful study should be required.
There's a large difference between 15 years of science to make sure something doesn't do more harm than it prevents, and taking a decade before someone even declares themselves as responsible for evaluating anything.
so yeah. genociding species tends not to end well. That being said we actually just need to eliminate the disease spreading mosquitos and don't need to get rid of them all so. maybe.
These technologies are pretty much unable to completely genocide mosquitos unless deployed worldwide in an massive effort, which noone wants to actually do - they are really only problematic in areas where mosquitos and blood-borne diseases which get transmitted by them happen to coexist.
Mosquitoes are my mortal enemy, unless someone can prove their eradication will disrupt the food chain so much that great white sharks will disappear ... Push play already.
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Mosquitoes are a choice: the technology to eradicate mosquito-borne disease already exists | Spyke
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this is such a reductionist view.
it should absolutely take decades to make a sweeping decision to fundamentally alter an ecosystem. nobody likes disease or even getting a random bite. i grew up in the swamps of the US, i know. but we should absolutely know what we’re doing to release a genetically engineered or bacterial sterilizing agent into a naturally evolved ecosystem.
Ok. You can take decades if you have a systematic plan with data collection, time lines, expanded test beds, and reviews of emerging relevant science. But sitting on your hands for 15yrs isn't very productive.
People have been more than happy to do this with the food we eat under accelerated time lines (I'm not defending that, but it's not like there isn't precedent for genetic meddling at scale.
they did mention doing harmonization studies, which is my biggest worry: cascading ecological effects.
the impetus can’t be “oh well they haven’t done the full studies so i guess we just full send and see what happens”.
These techniques are targeted at individual species, not all mosquitoes, and the species in question are invasive species. If it was targeting native mosquitoes your comment would make more sense, but in this case the ecological effects should be neutral to positive.
Careful. Targeted bacteriological or viral methods can adapt once out in the open. What you ultimately cause may not be what was intended. What other creatures share traits that might be susceptible? Let's not pretend we've genomapped and understood everything out there.
Also mosquitos and their larvae are food for parts of the food web. If they are gone, what starves?
Unintended consequences are a real risk. Careful study should be required.
There's a large difference between 15 years of science to make sure something doesn't do more harm than it prevents, and taking a decade before someone even declares themselves as responsible for evaluating anything.
so yeah. genociding species tends not to end well. That being said we actually just need to eliminate the disease spreading mosquitos and don't need to get rid of them all so. maybe.
These technologies are pretty much unable to completely genocide mosquitos unless deployed worldwide in an massive effort, which noone wants to actually do - they are really only problematic in areas where mosquitos and blood-borne diseases which get transmitted by them happen to coexist.
A system to kill a fuck ton with lasers has existed for decades, but a patent troll is sitting on it.
China is releasing one this year.
https://archive.ph/BE3Lp
Article says it kills slow moving flying insects... Worried this could also kill fireflies
CMS to AAW AUTO!
A lot of technology to do a lot of cool shit already exists, we just refuse to use them
Mosquitoes are my mortal enemy, unless someone can prove their eradication will disrupt the food chain so much that great white sharks will disappear ... Push play already.